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How do I explain this to a new player?

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Andryah
12.04.2012 , 10:44 AM | #11
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How do I explain this to a new player?

Doo doo happens. Anyone living in the real world should be able to grasp this.

And the matching answer to this is, when he asks why it's not fixed: some doo doo gets cleaned up.... some sits in plain sight and ages and matures until it's fossilized.

MMOs must give us little things to cope with, lest we forget we are in a virtual world and never return to real life.
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Trollokdamus
12.04.2012 , 10:57 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Ryat View Post
Some bugs are more important then others. The whole lightsaber issue while being irritating is not game breaking. There are still game breaking bugs going on so they get the spotlight.
Lightsabers are among the most major iconic symbols of Star Wars. It's lightsabers that make both the universe and the game unique and special. It's lightsabers that attract people to play this particular game, ignoring better options.
When a new player starts to play this game, he expects to see lightsabers, force powers and epic stories. When he finds out that one of this major aspects is broken for many months, and there's still no even an approximate ETA on this issue, he comes to an obvious conclusion - developers couldn't care less about how the game looks in its player's eyes, they couldn't care less about quality.

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Belacose
12.04.2012 , 11:19 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Nala View Post
There are only so many hours in a day. This is a silly bug. But it's harmless for most people. If it really ruins your (or your friend's) experience so much, then I really don't think computer games are for you.
I don't know, man. Seems most put a large emphasis on how their toons dress and look, myself included.

I quit playing my bounty hunter for a while because I couldn't stand his rice bowl helmet. After my Jedi found a cool bounty hunter helmet I sent to my powertech and found myself playing the character again because, simply, I looked good.

Not being a computer guy I can only tell myself that the DEVs must be really lost on this one. If they're not than there must not be much candid conversation concerning priorities amongst them and whoever the big boss is. Kind of like Jerry Jones keeping himself surrounded by 'yes' men..

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Galbatorrix
12.04.2012 , 11:30 AM | #14
It annoys the crap out of me. FIX IT BIOWARE!!!!

Honestly, it's an EASY fix too! When you first summon a companion, demount, enter a new area, etc, your companions always have their weapons out. They quickly put them away, and that's when the issue occurs. Now, if you force your companions to draw their weapons by turning their stance off, then back on, they draw the weapons and then put them away the right way. So, the fix you ask? Well, make it so the companions have their weapons sheathed when summoned, after you demount, enter a new area, etc by default. The bug only happens when they put away their weapons AFTER one of those scenarios. So, this should fix the problem.

And to all of the people that say "this isn't game breaking, blah blah blah!!", having Kira constantly have a lightsaber through her face made me not want to continue on with my Guardian.... it's THAT annoying. Also, if they can spend time fixing other aesthetics, they can fix this.

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Borgbunny
12.04.2012 , 12:09 PM | #15
How much time did they spend getting the facial expressions for various emotes to work? Seems there was plenty of time for THAT aesthetic touch. And that wasn't even a fix! That was them deciding to add, yet again, something that NO ONE was clamoring for.

At this point, I'm just assuming they've opted not to fix the older stuff.

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LodSock
12.04.2012 , 12:30 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Nala View Post
There are only so many hours in a day. This is a silly bug. But it's harmless for most people. If it really ruins your (or your friend's) experience so much, then I really don't think computer games are for you.
What the hell are you talking about?

If you're posting messages like that, I think that the forums are not for you.

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neocoma
12.04.2012 , 12:35 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Ryat View Post
Some bugs are more important then others. The whole lightsaber issue while being irritating is not game breaking. There are still game breaking bugs going on so they get the spotlight.
This bug is in the game since release ...just saying. Cant be that hard to fix, can it?

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Master-Nala
12.04.2012 , 12:40 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Belacose View Post
I don't know, man. Seems most put a large emphasis on how their toons dress and look, myself included.

I quit playing my bounty hunter for a while because I couldn't stand his rice bowl helmet. After my Jedi found a cool bounty hunter helmet I sent to my powertech and found myself playing the character again because, simply, I looked good.

Not being a computer guy I can only tell myself that the DEVs must be really lost on this one. If they're not than there must not be much candid conversation concerning priorities amongst them and whoever the big boss is. Kind of like Jerry Jones keeping himself surrounded by 'yes' men..
Certainly, how you look is very important. It's important to me. But this affects companions. Players can sheath their weapons just fine. It's super-silly, I agree and it should be fixed, but if it is ruining the game for a person, then that person is being far too sensitive IMO.
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Andryah
12.04.2012 , 12:46 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Nala View Post
Certainly, how you look is very important. It's important to me. But this affects companions. Players can sheath their weapons just fine. It's super-silly, I agree and it should be fixed, but if it is ruining the game for a person, then that person is being far too sensitive IMO.
I agree. And there are workarounds for the companion problem (discussed yesterday in forum in fact).
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LordArtemis
12.04.2012 , 12:47 PM | #20
It's not really fair to say that it's an EASY fix since we really don't know how it's coded. It could be a really difficult fix, connected in some way to the code that pulls the weapons out automatically during combat and proper automatic companion stances. The animation for lightsabers draw and remove has always been buggy, and this could just be an extension of this problem.

So it could be related to the code for the drawing of the blades overall, or it could be just related to the companion stance...all guesses by the way.

At any rate, I think something like this, if it was easy to fix would have already been fixed. It may not be gamebreaking, but it has to be embarrassing to the game designers.

I still feel it should be a top priority now since we are trying to draw new players and the image of the game is very important for retention and first impressions...but I realize it may not be an easy fix.