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Relics for neutral players?

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Kornmanz
12.04.2012 , 02:06 AM | #1
So where's the relics for people who stay in the neutral? I played a toon all the way to 50 neutral and never got a relic.

Come to find out there's none in game.

Kinda dumb right?
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monkgryphon
12.04.2012 , 02:08 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Kornmanz View Post
So where's the relics for people who stay in the neutral? I played a toon all the way to 50 neutral and never got a relic.

Come to find out there's none in game.

Kinda dumb right?
So you chose to be evil half the time, and good the other half? That doesn't make you neutral, as you still perform evil deeds among good deeds. It just makes you chaotic.

The funny thing, now that you're 50, you can get any of the numerous level 50 relics that don't have an alignment restriction. Do your dailies and get Campaign/ Dread Guard Relics, and PVP relics.

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Zataos
12.04.2012 , 02:16 AM | #3
Yeah the relic thing is dumb and has been promised to be fixed since beta with so called "gray gear".
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chuixupu
12.04.2012 , 02:22 AM | #4
There are plenty of neutral relics. You can buy some straight away when you hit 50 from the PVP gear vendor. You can also get awesome ones from daily comms, and any relic that drops in flashpoints and operations are neutral.
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Draekos
12.04.2012 , 02:27 AM | #5
Yup its pretty annoying that they still limit the levelling relics to light or dark. I'm levelling an agent now and I want to pick choices that fit my image of the character(some light and some dark choices), but I tend to take dark ones just to keep up for relics. At dark 3 now though and may just push on to 50 making sure I don't lose it(at 43 atrm).
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Igax
12.04.2012 , 02:28 AM | #6
Yet another of the MANY broken promises from BW, AKA Soon™.
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Lasica
12.04.2012 , 02:40 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by monkgryphon View Post
So you chose to be evil half the time, and good the other half? That doesn't make you neutral, as you still perform evil deeds among good deeds. It just makes you chaotic..
Not necessarily. I am currently playing an operative who is generally good but will choose whatever serves the empire which may be evil or it may be good. The end result is that by level 27 I'm 1800 light and 1800 dark.

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KariTalRathe
12.04.2012 , 03:19 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by monkgryphon View Post
So you chose to be evil half the time, and good the other half? That doesn't make you neutral, as you still perform evil deeds among good deeds. It just makes you chaotic.

The funny thing, now that you're 50, you can get any of the numerous level 50 relics that don't have an alignment restriction. Do your dailies and get Campaign/ Dread Guard Relics, and PVP relics.
Well I am sure this is an old, old debate, but as a new player unaware of the game mechanics my republic character was amassing a lot of dark side points from options that were not inherently "evil".

At the risk of adding spoilers, there is an early quest that saw a Rep. military officer send my smuggler on a mission to recover stolen medicine - the medicine was needed to treat sick republicans. Along the way, I discover that a group of refugees could also use the medicine to treat their sick. Once I recover the medicine, I have a choice to take it to the refugees or back to the Fort to help the Republicans, which presumably includes soldiers already putting themselves on the frontline. Unless I missed a crucial piece of information, neither party were obviously more deserving than the other and yet when I decided to return the medicine to its rightful owners (and the Sergeant had asked first ), I got dark side points

This is just one example of many that saw my character leave Ord Mantell almost in the neutral zone (I think light edged it by only 100 points) and I defy any player to turn off the light/dark indicator for mission conversations and not come away with more opposing faction attributes than they would otherwise have done. As someone who likes roleplay to dictate character decisions, not a mechanical game feature, I can assure you doing the right thing is not always 'good'.

Having said that, I have no stance on the lack of relics for neutral characters (although Matrix cubes aren't alignment specific are they?). If the game was not designed for 3 alignments, I don't particularly have a problem with that - playing neutral 'by design' is as artificial as the dark/light indicator, in my opinion.

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LordBarok
12.04.2012 , 03:29 AM | #9
You can get the matrix shards from each of the planets while datacron hunting, then take them to the matrix cube assembler on your capital planet to craft the matrix cube relic. Those are neutral.

www.swtor-spy.com has a good guide on hunting datacrons/matrix shards, as well as the matrix shard color combinations for the matrix cubes.
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BrianDavion
12.04.2012 , 03:56 AM | #10
grey gear IMHO is the wrong fix, the best fix is to remove requirements for alignment from relics and use alignment stuff purely for cosmetics and other fun stuff.