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What exactly did Revan acomplish?

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What exactly did Revan acomplish?

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OldVengeance
12.03.2012 , 04:03 PM | #1
So after the Maelstrom Prison Revan explains that in his time as the Emperor's prisoner, he was able to gain a degree of mental influence and stop the the Great Galactic War for 300 years by tempering his hate. Now personally I think that turn of events from the Revan novel somehow makes both of them seem kinda... lame. But I can roll with that, and if we take him at face value it might make sense. But then the Emperor's Plans never really had anything to do with the war. He wants to consume all life in the galaxy not make war on the Republic. I kinda got the sense mostly from playing the Jedi Knight story that Revan may have been completely delusional, given what Scourge says of his plans. All Revan seems to have achieved was to delay something that wasn't even his real plan. The Emperor was totally unconcerned about the Republic itself anyway, and only really cares about accomplishing his ultimate goal, so on that, I got the feeling that Revan didn't really change much at all. But if that is the case, why did the Emperor put off his invasion by 300 years?

If the Emperor's aloof attitude is supposedly a product of Revan's influence, then doesn't that almost mean he made him even more formidable by boosting his endless patience?

Then again, now that I think about it maybe the writers were just being contradictory about the Emperor in general. Does not Scourge say that he and the Emperor have not felt emotion as a price of being immortal? The Emperor certainly seems fairly levelheaded for a Sith, even describing revenge as a "mortal fuel that leaves the tank bare" to the Sith Warrior. But Kira and Leeha both say specifically that the Emperor feels a cold rage and hate respectively. Even Scourge describes the Knight as "his most hated enemy."

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Asrei
12.03.2012 , 09:03 PM | #2
The war may not have been the Emperor's ultimate goal but, if I remember right, he needs death on a large scale to fuel his ritual. He doesn't care who wins, the war is simply a fuel source.

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drfumblez
12.03.2012 , 09:15 PM | #3
It's not about who wins the war. It's about how many are dying. If the entire Empire is slaughtered, Papa Emps is cool with that, because he'll have enough deaths to break out his ritual.

Revan was trying to hold off that from happening for as long as possible. However, the Foundry Flashpoint brings some serious questions to the table on his level of sanity.

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Crimson_Paladin
12.04.2012 , 04:17 AM | #4
I believe it was Revan's influence that caused the Emperor to order the Treaty of Coruscant instead of finishing the job and destroying the Republic when they actually had the chance.

40 years later, the Emperor is thwarted repeatedly when he finally puts his plans into motion, his Voice gets trapped by Darth Baras, his replacement Voice is killed by the Jedi Knight, several members of the Dark Council are killed, Darth Malgus and the Dread Masters both betray the Empire, Imperial Intelligence is disbanded, and even as the Republic seems to be winning the war (and now headed by someone who has in the past advocated the complete destruction of the Sith Empire), the Sith are still spending time and energy killing one another. Even if Revan didn't intend for all of that to happen as it did, it's a pretty decent result.

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YoshiRaphElan
12.04.2012 , 01:07 PM | #5
Basically, Revan made the Emperor believe that the Republic was more powerful than it was, delaying the war for 300 years - and also making the Emperor wary enough to craft the Treaty of Coruscant.

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maxetius
12.05.2012 , 02:21 AM | #6
On a side note, Revan's intentions at the Foundry were to eliminate the Empire and defeat the Emperor. Unfortunately, what he did not realize was that death on such a ridiculous scale would only serve to empower the Emperor himself even more, rendering victory impossible.

Thanks to his defeat, the galaxy still has a chance... albeit in a roundabout way.

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LegendaryBlade
12.06.2012 , 09:34 PM | #7
He accomplished being ruined by terrible writers that i'm convinced actually hated the KOTOR games.

He accomplished that so good.
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YoshiRaphElan
12.06.2012 , 10:05 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by LegendaryBlade View Post
He accomplished being ruined by terrible writers that i'm convinced actually hated the KOTOR games.

He accomplished that so good.
To each his own. I loved Revan in the games - 'specially since it canonized his face. They gave him a good appearance, at least.

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OldVengeance
12.10.2012 , 05:01 PM | #9
So why exactly did the mind link cause the Emperor to create the Treaty of Coruscant? Even if it was a product of Revan's influence, there still needed to be a reason the Emperor would need to opt for peace. Revan at most made the Emperor more cautious, he never made him give up his ultimate goals. If the Emperor wanted death on a massive scale, then surely the Treaty would be counter productive? Even if the Republic turned the tide (which was unlikely anyway) the death the continued war would have caused his plan to go into motion anyway even if it was the Empire that suffered the death he needed. Plus, why didn't he order the Empire to raze every Republic world they encountered in the Great Galactic War in the first place?

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AshlaBoga
12.10.2012 , 05:06 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by maxetius View Post
On a side note, Revan's intentions at the Foundry were to eliminate the Empire and defeat the Emperor. Unfortunately, what he did not realize was that death on such a ridiculous scale would only serve to empower the Emperor himself even more, rendering victory impossible.

Thanks to his defeat, the galaxy still has a chance... albeit in a roundabout way.
Yeah a "97.8% efficient genocide" would have given the Emperor more than enough death to become a God.
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