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PVP is broken BIG time!

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PVP is broken BIG time!

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Glorthox
Old 11.27.2012 , 07:02 PM | #11
Usually the ones that don't have a problem with premade groups are the ones in those groups.....

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Arlanon
Old 11.27.2012 , 07:56 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Glorthox
Usually the ones that don't have a problem with premade groups are the ones in those groups.....
Usually the ones that have a problem with premade groups are the ones not in those groups.....

MAKE SOME FRIENDS
JOIN TOGETHER
GET VENT. OR MUMBLE. OR WTFEVER

This is not a Bioware problem. It is a you problem.

It is not for Bioware to fix. It is for you to fix.

The game is not the flaw. Your mindset is.

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Rafael_Peres
Old 11.27.2012 , 08:16 PM | #13
I have a 50 marauder since launch. PvP always was fun with it, mostly because when I was in recruit gear everyone else was too. And when I go to some regular PvP I destroy people in recruit gear. You can put the best mmo pvper in the world against me I will destroy him in 6 seconds if he is in recruit gear.
I leveled a Guardian in 1.4, did not past Recruit Gear cause it sucks being stomped, get no change of get some medals and decent commendations amount per match. Yesterday I hit 50 on my operative, did some PvP today only to get destroyed. Got stunned and rooted all the time and my awesome 13k HP goes to 0 instantly. My defensives cooldowns are nothing, its just a waste to pop em up.
When I enter matches with recruit geared people I have fun, I survive, I can cast heals, get medals and be happy. Play against a war hero team and I cross fingers to get 3 medals and 50 comms at end of the match.
Yes, some ******* will say the problem is me, but everyone that is playing here long enough know what I'm talking about.

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Skyskater
Old 11.27.2012 , 08:18 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Hambunctious View Post
Except you're not dealing with tiered pve gating, and enrage timers. People are getting crushed by those better geared, and there's zero fun in that. BM geared people have no chance against players with fully optimized/augmented WH gear. None, zero, nada, zilch.
That's completely untrue, the only thing is most people dont want to augment their gear until they get the war hero. That's why you have issues cause you have to contend with the gap between WH and BH PLUS the augments. Spend a little bit of creds to augment your gear and you'll more than stand a chance.

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swifferdude
Old 11.27.2012 , 08:32 PM | #15
How much do you wanna bet that anyone that goes AGAINST the op of this thread has full wh augmented and because so, they feel it is "not broken"

Anyway, I completely agreed with the op, pre-50s are the best because its skill vs skill, yes the levels do make a small difference, but its still MOSTLY skill vs skill, unlike 50-pvp where it's gear vs gear really
I'll put him on my "to kill" list

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swifferdude
Old 11.27.2012 , 08:34 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Rafael_Peres View Post
I have a 50 marauder since launch. PvP always was fun with it, mostly because when I was in recruit gear everyone else was too. And when I go to some regular PvP I destroy people in recruit gear. You can put the best mmo pvper in the world against me I will destroy him in 6 seconds if he is in recruit gear.
I leveled a Guardian in 1.4, did not past Recruit Gear cause it sucks being stomped, get no change of get some medals and decent commendations amount per match. Yesterday I hit 50 on my operative, did some PvP today only to get destroyed. Got stunned and rooted all the time and my awesome 13k HP goes to 0 instantly. My defensives cooldowns are nothing, its just a waste to pop em up.
When I enter matches with recruit geared people I have fun, I survive, I can cast heals, get medals and be happy. Play against a war hero team and I cross fingers to get 50 comms at end of the match.
Yes, some ******* will say the problem is me, but everyone that is playing here long enough know what I'm talking about.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^yes.
I'll put him on my "to kill" list

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Mhorlok
Old 11.27.2012 , 08:52 PM | #17
I really don't understand why people are complaining about "better geared" I hear it all the time...

In Full War Hero gear I still get smashed for 7k+ (Multiple Screenshots if you want them) They aren't better geared than me, they have a broken class.
Broken because 7k AE damage is stupid... and thats in Heavy Armor with 1370 Expertise to help me mitigate...

Forget the gear - fix the classes and people will need to find something else to complain about...

By the way the expertise of the two that hit me that hard is only around 1230 - over 100 expertise LESS than I have...

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United_Strafes
Old 11.27.2012 , 09:02 PM | #18
Meh rather see them actually balance the classes then worry about the gear gap. We all know the button mashing Mara/Sent do just fine in BM, so once they do a little balance then they can move on to gear, maybe think a little more about sets which frankly for some classes now some of the set trade in don't make a lick of sense.

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Kerensk
Old 11.27.2012 , 09:41 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by swifferdude View Post
Anyway, I completely agreed with the op, pre-50s are the best because its skill vs skill, yes the levels do make a small difference, but its still MOSTLY skill vs skill, unlike 50-pvp where it's gear vs gear really
I have to admit I feel the 1-49 is more balanced between classes and gear. I just hate how poor the lowbies are at strategy. No! In NC East and West is not easier to defend than mid and your near side!

BW should load the test server with PvP where the gear is normalized and not tell people. See how many people say it's more balanced now and who says that it's worse. Other than the current OP players I bet the overall opinion would be positive.

Some would claim that it takes away the reason to grind gear but that only proves that gear is the deciding factor, and that WH should not be abusing recruits (give us real tiered match ups!)
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Majspuffen
Old 11.27.2012 , 09:54 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Skyskater View Post
That's completely untrue, the only thing is most people dont want to augment their gear until they get the war hero. That's why you have issues cause you have to contend with the gap between WH and BH PLUS the augments. Spend a little bit of creds to augment your gear and you'll more than stand a chance.
Define "little bit".

In order to fully augment your gear, you need to spend a minimum of 420000 credits (14 gear slots x 30k cost to apply MK-6). When you reach level 50 you typically have enough money to buy your new abilities and a speeder, unless you've been playing on the GTN during levelling, or if you have a main character to leech money from. 420000 credits is the minimum cost, but a more realistic number would be; ~1800000 credits, unless you craft some of the things yourself.

20% gear gap? Bioware never said that's what we had in the game. It's what they wanted, a 15-20% gear gap. I really doubt that the gear gap is that small. When I see a person in 14k hp, I'll kill that person without breaking a sweat. I might even be able to kill the person before they have a chance to inflict any damage on me.

PvP in this game is broken. It was much better in 1.2. I preferred 1.1, that's when the PvP was at its best. Back when there were relics for burst, and DPS actually had to think on what casts to interrupt and how to best stun to counter certain classes. Right now, if you can get a full 4 sec stun off on your opponent without them breaking it, you've pretty much won.
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