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Upgraded to i5 3570k Amazing Fps!!!

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AdamChattaway
11.08.2012 , 09:17 PM | #1
I've just resubbed and returned to SWTOR today for the rewards and such to play the game as im in the mood, ive lately been playing GW2 and WOW but last week i upgraded to an I5 intel from an AMD 955BE and the boost i got in all my games was insane, im talking ive gone from 20 fps on low gfx in GW2 World vs World PVP to ultra gfx and 30 fps, so you can imagine the rest of the game, same with skyrim and all my other games, it was 3x better upgrade than a new GPU.

Before on SWTOR i would log into the fleet and on max gfx with shadows i would lagg, the shadows were a big cause but mainly players, dam this game engine i thought and 10 fps with 20-30 people on screen, ilum i had 5 fps in big fights lol. But today i log in max gfx and dam 107 fps on fleet at the bank! i ran around and never went below 80 fps ever, this is bloody amazing, anyone having the same issues i did you should deffo get an i5, below are my pc specs.

Also the new Virtue MVP software to basically use the processors onboard gfx to boost game fps really does work, it gave me 11 more fps on SWTOR.

Windows 7 64 bit, 12gig DDR3 ram 1600mhz, Radeon 6970 2gig, SSD agility 3, Intel i5 3570k, Asrock Extream 4 motherboard.
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smackphat
11.08.2012 , 10:40 PM | #2
When I overclocked my CPU from 3GHz to 3.6GHz my FPS improved from unplayable to being able to max the game out. This is a CPU heavy game and literally the sole reason I run overclocked now. I can max out anything else from the last two years without a problem at stock speeds, including HQ textures and all the other IQ switches on in my Nvidia CP. I think it's a combination of bad optimization and the fact that MMOs tend to be CPU heavy.

To be fair, my computer is 5 years old. But this game still could use some cleanup in the CPU department. It feels like a badly developed port tends to. Like GTA IV or LA Noire. Not to single out another development company. They're just the first two to come to mind.

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AdamChattaway
11.09.2012 , 06:28 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by smackphat View Post
When I overclocked my CPU from 3GHz to 3.6GHz my FPS improved from unplayable to being able to max the game out. This is a CPU heavy game and literally the sole reason I run overclocked now. I can max out anything else from the last two years without a problem at stock speeds, including HQ textures and all the other IQ switches on in my Nvidia CP. I think it's a combination of bad optimization and the fact that MMOs tend to be CPU heavy.

To be fair, my computer is 5 years old. But this game still could use some cleanup in the CPU department. It feels like a badly developed port tends to. Like GTA IV or LA Noire. Not to single out another development company. They're just the first two to come to mind.
Yea online games and even some single like skyrim seem to be very CPU heavy, i never expected a cpu to make this much difference, old cpu benchmarks barely increased fps on games b 1-2 nowadays its the difference from a laggy 25 to a maxed out 90, well from now on im going intel and nvidia all the way, im still using a 6970 but im planning on upgrading to a GTX 670 at Christmas
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AMKSED
11.09.2012 , 08:16 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by AdamChattaway View Post
Yea online games and even some single like skyrim seem to be very CPU heavy, i never expected a cpu to make this much difference, old cpu benchmarks barely increased fps on games b 1-2 nowadays its the difference from a laggy 25 to a maxed out 90, well from now on im going intel and nvidia all the way, im still using a 6970 but im planning on upgrading to a GTX 670 at Christmas
I'd keep the 6970 until the new line of GPUs come out. You won't get a $ worthy boost going from a 6970 to a 670. They should be out around January 2013.

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AMKSED
11.09.2012 , 08:18 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by AMKSED View Post
I'd keep the 6970 until the new line of GPUs come out. You won't get a $ worthy boost going from a 6970 to a 670. They should be out around January 2013.
AMD's new 8000 (8870 and 8950) series is supposed to be priced around $200-300 and have the same if not better performance as the 680/7970.

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morfius
11.09.2012 , 09:13 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by AdamChattaway View Post
Yea online games and even some single like skyrim seem to be very CPU heavy, i never expected a cpu to make this much difference, old cpu benchmarks barely increased fps on games b 1-2 nowadays its the difference from a laggy 25 to a maxed out 90, well from now on im going intel and nvidia all the way, im still using a 6970 but im planning on upgrading to a GTX 670 at Christmas
670 will give you near same output as 6970 (between 4 and 16% better due to some benchmarks) ... don't trow your money.
If you really want to remove anything AMD based from your PC ... buy at least 680... otherwise it have no sense to pay almost same price twice for similar result.

Witch came to say that CPUs of AMD are no match for Intel ones, but GPUs of ATI & Nvidia are on similar scales...
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Xenirath
11.09.2012 , 09:16 AM | #7
Had a guild mate say the same thing when he upgraded CPU.

Currently my CPU is what is holding me back but I don't have the cash to upgrade to anything decent
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AMKSED
11.09.2012 , 09:18 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenirath View Post
Had a guild mate say the same thing when he upgraded CPU.

Currently my CPU is what is holding me back but I don't have the cash to upgrade to anything decent
I have a Phenom 965 OC'd ro 4.0Ghz and it's stupid to see that a stock i5 2500k/3570k @ 3.4Ghz pulls about 20-40% more FPS.

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Xenirath
11.09.2012 , 09:21 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by AMKSED View Post
I have a Phenom 965 OC'd ro 4.0Ghz and it's stupid to see that a stock i5 2500k/3570k @ 3.4Ghz pulls about 20-40% more FPS.
I'm only using a dual core Amd something or other -.-
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Malastare
11.09.2012 , 09:33 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by AdamChattaway View Post
I've just resubbed and returned to SWTOR today for the rewards and such to play the game as im in the mood, ive lately been playing GW2 and WOW but last week i upgraded to an I5 intel from an AMD 955BE and the boost i got in all my games was insane, im talking ive gone from 20 fps on low gfx in GW2 World vs World PVP to ultra gfx and 30 fps, so you can imagine the rest of the game, same with skyrim and all my other games, it was 3x better upgrade than a new GPU.
I don't mean this to come off as harshly condescending, but it's going to anyway:

Yes. Upgrading your CPU on a CPU-heavy game is going to improve your performance.

I don't expect everyone to automatically know these things but if you don't, now is a good time to learn:
  • MMOs --in general-- are CPU heavy games. Yes, video cards help, but netcode and animations and all the synchronizations take CPU power
  • Modern CPUs are far better than CPUs just two generations old. That 955 of yours is only as good as a Q9450... which was a great CPU... five years ago. Ivy Bridge CPUs blow them out of the water in every metric that you'd care about.
  • It's been a long time since a CPU's performance was accurately measured by its clock speed. It worked for Pentium IIs. After that... not so much. While the upgrade to a 3570 might look like a 3.2GHz to 3.4GHz upgrade... the actual difference is a more-than-doubling of actual CPU ability... while producing less heat (and therefore needing less electricity).
  • If you are using software that is CPU intensive, not even the most expensive video card is going to give you fantastic frame rates.