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Developer Update: Free-to-Play Option

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Developer Update: Free-to-Play Option
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skyknightandy
11.07.2012 , 05:41 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Joajoa View Post
Right now I'm content to subscribe to TOR,regardless of the decrease in playerbase or the fact I could later play for free.I know the gameplay drops after hitting 50,I'm aware of the many,many flaws in the game--and I don't mind continuing to pay my $15 a month.For me,personally, I enjoy playing a story-based MMO with a low time sink and instanced pvp.I've played dozens of other MMO's,for now I'm content to stay.

Having said that,the Free-to-Play format that Bioware is adopting is a complete disaster.Going from level 1-50 with the class story line is the best part of the game,and that part is free.New Players will play the game till 50 then leave...this won't help the population at all.We will get a huge boost at first,which will quickly die out once F2P players go through the PVE content.

The time and effort that Bioware is putting into F2P is wasted--because it doesn't address the main reason ppl leave this game...the "After 50" slump.
i agree with that 50% i think they need to add more dialies for end content...but i don't think that the storyline is the best part... i feel like they should add more between lvl 1-50 and add more planets 2 where you can go do dialies if ur a players whos been through everysingle storyline and just want to do dialies from lvl 1-50. pvp is really good but they can do better like make more pvp maps and deathmatch pvp, make more open world pvp and have more lvl brakets for open world pvp plus give players reward for killing a player in open world. bioware has lots of potential to make swtor a really good game by work on more pve and pvp content. Bioware at the moment is only giving the players 50% of the game not the full 100% that we would like to see.

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Zhedahara
11.07.2012 , 05:46 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by WorldSecurities View Post
This statement:
"The second core rule is that subscribers should not experience any degradation of their gameplay experience. Those of you who are still paying a monthly fee should still get the same gameplay experience and you won’t find anything taken away from you and the gameplay that you currently enjoy. "

Is contradicted by this statement:
"Players with Preferred Status do not face the same limitations as a Free-to-Play player and will find that some restrictions are either removed or greatly reduced"

As the above works down to:
Players with Preferred Status ... will find that some restrictions ... are greatly reduced

That "greatly reduced" phrase is equivalent to "taken away from you."

What are these "greatly reduced" "restrictions"? And for "Players with Preferred Status", i.e. subscribers, why are there any, "some", restrictions at all?

Or is that a typo that needs editorial correction?

I'm rather sure you read that wrong. People with "Preferred Status" are people who have subscribed before (or have bought something at the web store for a minimum of $4.99) and have switched over to Free-to-Play. They are not recognised as a subscriber but as a previous subscriber and thus given a "Preferred Status" to recognise them as such.

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DarthEccen
11.07.2012 , 05:55 PM | #33
This is the second time I've seen this release date in regards to F2P: "Soon!" And that's just today. Could we nail it down to a month, at least? There's only one and half of them left this year.

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corcode
11.07.2012 , 06:14 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by AlyxDinas View Post
If you have certain things like UI options and color match and other things gated the way you have, the FTP option is nothing but a punishment. Gate content if you want. That makes sense. But even with this talk of "Preferred Status", you need to seriously reevaluate what the model does and does not restrict if you think people are even going to bother with it.

Having quickbar slots or title be purchasable unlocks is the most harebrained thing I have heard. One of the things that having preferred status gives you is the ability to send mail. These things should be basic quality of life things that everyone has access to. Gate content. Limit warzones, limit flashpoints and looting. Do all of that. But making the option to hide headslot something to buy? Making quick travel something to buy?

All you are doing is gutting a product of quality and either a) merely rolling things back to how certain things were before certain patches insofar as QoL or b) imposing limits on things that should be granted.

And it's transparent. It's a money grab. Other games with ingame stores or FTP options at least have some of the content purchases seem smart. In LOTRO, you could buy access to all the quests in an area. Hell, you want to make money, you do that. Person wants to raid? Which raid would they like access to? Do they want to pay extra for access to the Tier One raids in a bundle pack? Only buy Eternity Vault? Maybe buy all of them for a large flat rate?

THAT's how you gate things. That's how you manage your content in a FTP system. It doesn't come from saying "If you want more quickbars, please insert 25 cents".
This. The quality of life restrictions are ridiculous and will only serve to frustrate potential F2P players and drive them away not incentivise them to make purchases. Please read your own Test Server forums and take to heart the feedback contained there before pushing this out to live servers. As I have seen others say in countless other threads: you only have one chance to make a first impression with this new model so even if you change it after the push to live any bad publicity will already be out there and that's what people will see so it will prevent a lot of people from even trying the game.
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Demothrin
11.07.2012 , 06:37 PM | #35
I know it seems unfair that the f2p you cant have quick travel and titles and hide headslots but look at it this way your not on a time limit because of a subscription so you dont need the quick travel really and just by spending a few dollars/pounds (alot less than a new game) you get prefered status and can buy the titles and head slots permanantly for all chars

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Karkais
11.07.2012 , 06:41 PM | #36
Im looking forward to cartel shop and similar new additions, not F2P itself because I will remain subscriber.

Also the hooded robes.

ps. I admit that the quick travel restriction of f2p people is ridiculous.
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forcedarkness
11.07.2012 , 06:47 PM | #37
I like the idea of free to play but do subscribers still have to stay subscribed to enjoy the full experience

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Nothematic
11.07.2012 , 06:50 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by WorldSecurities View Post
This statement:
"The second core rule is that subscribers should not experience any degradation of their gameplay experience. Those of you who are still paying a monthly fee should still get the same gameplay experience and you won’t find anything taken away from you and the gameplay that you currently enjoy. "

Is contradicted by this statement:
"Players with Preferred Status do not face the same limitations as a Free-to-Play player and will find that some restrictions are either removed or greatly reduced"

As the above works down to:
Players with Preferred Status ... will find that some restrictions ... are greatly reduced

That "greatly reduced" phrase is equivalent to "taken away from you."

What are these "greatly reduced" "restrictions"? And for "Players with Preferred Status", i.e. subscribers, why are there any, "some", restrictions at all?

Or is that a typo that needs editorial correction?
Preferred status isn't subscriber. Subscriber = paying, preferred = paid before but not paying now.

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Skodan
11.07.2012 , 07:00 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
I just want to point out one thing: this blog was written a few weeks ago, so if it reads that way...well, that's why!
so why not do a little editing and make it appear to be more present
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11.07.2012 , 07:26 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthEccen View Post
This is the second time I've seen this release date in regards to F2P: "Soon!" And that's just today. Could we nail it down to a month, at least? There's only one and half of them left this year.
This is my guess: announcement of no maintenance on Tuesday, then 1.5 will go live on the 15th.
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