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BW, do you ever plan on addressing DPS Mercs/Commandos PvP-wise?

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BW, do you ever plan on addressing DPS Mercs/Commandos PvP-wise?
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xxIncubixx
02.02.2013 , 09:01 AM | #1001
i think they shoud lower the combat shied upgrade to Reactive shield (immune to interrupts) one tier down on healing tree, that way it would be more accessible to gunnery specced mandos, and then add some kind of Hold the line skill.

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klham
02.02.2013 , 11:29 AM | #1002
Quote: Originally Posted by xxIncubixx View Post
i think they shoud lower the combat shied upgrade to Reactive shield (immune to interrupts) one tier down on healing tree, that way it would be more accessible to gunnery specced mandos, and then add some kind of Hold the line skill.
Agreed. It's been suggested many times. Attaching low-tier buffs to Reactive Shield is probably the easiest fix for mobility & interrupt issues across all three specs, provided it's on a much shorter cooldown or given a more extended duration (I'd opt for the shorter cooldown, since we'd be using it at different times for damage mitigation, interrupt-free casting, and mobility). It wouldnt impact pve gameplay very much either. Could also bundle the instant cast and/or zero-cost abilities with it to free up space for the escape ability and any other added utility abilities (because I don't think we need any more buttons to press, frankly).

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ArchangelLBC
02.02.2013 , 11:47 PM | #1003
Quote: Originally Posted by DariusCalera View Post
My bet is we won't get anything meaningful until the expansion. More than likely they will do something with bubblestun and the smashmonkies in 1.7 but mercs/mandos will simply be told to LoS the pillars more.

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I feel like this is ridiculously optimistic.
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klham
02.03.2013 , 01:48 AM | #1004
^ If we pillar-hump any more than we're currently doing we risk inventing a whole new sexual orientation. They could go for a few stop-gap buffs while indicating that more 'structural' design changes are being developed. But something tells me that's even more optimistic.

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mulzii
02.03.2013 , 07:33 AM | #1005
Quote: Originally Posted by ArchangelLBC View Post
I feel like this is ridiculously optimistic.
careful, they might nerf all the pillars in all the WZs for bioware hears this...

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Mindwreck
02.03.2013 , 08:05 PM | #1006
Quote: Originally Posted by Bluntron View Post
Let me know if you get Invincible or Immortal quoting in a WZ as a merc/mando.

800k is nothing. Top score charts is Nothing.
Anyone here who has made a valid and intelligent post on this forum can pull 800k as a merc in a VS, all it requires is ED and FM the right target in a cluster fuk of people and keep DFA on CD. 800k easy. Maybe a MB here and there.
My whole point was that I put up 800k damage and nobody else broke 500k. My numbers could have been bigger if I didnt also kill a ton of people in the process. We also won the match. Big numbers dont really mean anything if nobodies dying. The only point Im trying to make is that the dps issues arent that bad, its survivability. Ive never had the feeling that I wish I could put out more damage, I have had the feeling of being severely pissed off after being consistenty beat by almost any class 1v1 because of survivability issues. Nevermind the fact I used 800k as an example, not trying to brag about big numbers. Hell, theres been matches where I put up 300k and noone else broke 50k. Obviously we lose.

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DariusCalera
02.03.2013 , 10:03 PM | #1007
Quote: Originally Posted by Bluntron View Post
Let me know if you get Invincible or Immortal quoting in a WZ as a merc/mando.

800k is nothing. Top score charts is Nothing.
Anyone here who has made a valid and intelligent post on this forum can pull 800k as a merc in a VS, all it requires is ED and FM the right target in a cluster fuk of people and keep DFA on CD. 800k easy. Maybe a MB here and there.
Invincible isn't that hard on my commando. Not sure if I have ever gotten Immortal on him. Done it on my VG though.

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cashogy_reborn
02.03.2013 , 10:28 PM | #1008
the problem with the pillar-humping dev post is that pillar-humping is not a tactic solely used by Merc/Mando. its used by everyone
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ArchangelLBC
02.03.2013 , 10:55 PM | #1009
Quote: Originally Posted by Mindwreck View Post
My whole point was that I put up 800k damage and nobody else broke 500k. My numbers could have been bigger if I didnt also kill a ton of people in the process. We also won the match. Big numbers dont really mean anything if nobodies dying. The only point Im trying to make is that the dps issues arent that bad, its survivability. Ive never had the feeling that I wish I could put out more damage, I have had the feeling of being severely pissed off after being consistenty beat by almost any class 1v1 because of survivability issues. Nevermind the fact I used 800k as an example, not trying to brag about big numbers. Hell, theres been matches where I put up 300k and noone else broke 50k. Obviously we lose.
There's also survivability and type of damage. A class which does less damage overall but which does more upfront burst damage is more useful than a class which is doing more damage but the burst is either severely backloaded or is made up in a huge way by DoT damage (especially in warzones lacking healers).

Survivability is also a huge issue, as is team utility. I'd be a lot more comfortable with our damage if those two issues were addressed.
In update 2.9 the game will simply uninstall itself for you.

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Jherad
02.03.2013 , 11:19 PM | #1010
Quote: Originally Posted by Mindwreck View Post
My whole point was that I put up 800k damage and nobody else broke 500k. My numbers could have been bigger if I didnt also kill a ton of people in the process. We also won the match. Big numbers dont really mean anything if nobodies dying. The only point Im trying to make is that the dps issues arent that bad,.
Once I walked into a kindergarten class and I was totally the biggest person there. I could have taken any of them EASY.

This obviously means I'm as tough as a UFC champion. My fist DPS isn't that bad.

/logic

I have had matches where I've done 4 times+ the next highest DPS on:

My sage (hybrid) (at 50)
My guardian (lolsmash) (still leveling)
My sentinel (combat) (still leveling)
My commando (at 50)
My mercenary (sucker for punishment) (still leveling)
My vanguard (assault) (still leveling)
My gunslinger (sharpshooter - really badly geared) (at 50)

By far the easiest were the guardian, VG and sage, closely followed by the sentinel.

800k is awesome if you're a big fish in a little pond. In the ocean there are much bigger sharks.
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