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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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cashogy_reborn
10.15.2013 , 08:52 PM | #5931
Quote: Originally Posted by General_Aldo View Post
I pug all the time.

Instead of being bad and finding an excuse for your lack of skill, try and improve as a player and carry the team.

People need to realize they aren't as good as they think.
Same. Queuing solo helps you get better, you cant rely on any of your teamates to make up for your shortcomings.
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Exly
10.15.2013 , 08:52 PM | #5932
Quote: Originally Posted by Raazmir View Post
Why would they respond, its just whining. PVPers are a minority in this game, and the people who either dont or wont premade AND have a problem with their existence are a fraction of a fraction of the playerbase..
I guess if their objective is to continue to drive player's away from the game, or to ensure that the game is only fun for the smallest number of player's possible, that they should not reply. However, if they want to save the game, then they should listen to us and respond, and they should work to improve things so that as many people as possible enjoy the game. Any more questions?

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cashogy_reborn
10.15.2013 , 08:56 PM | #5933
They gave you a solo queue. If you dont want to face premades, go use the solo queue.

Bioware *DID* address the whines in this thread................. /facepalm
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General_Aldo
10.15.2013 , 08:59 PM | #5934
Quote: Originally Posted by Exly View Post
I guess if their objective is to continue to drive player's away from the game, or to ensure that the game is only fun for the smallest number of player's possible, that they should not reply. However, if they want to save the game, then they should listen to us and respond, and they should work to improve things so that as many people as possible enjoy the game. Any more questions?
Why would they listen to people who don't know anything about the game?
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Raazmir
10.15.2013 , 09:07 PM | #5935
Quote: Originally Posted by Exly View Post
I guess if their objective is to continue to drive player's away from the game, or to ensure that the game is only fun for the smallest number of player's possible, that they should not reply. However, if they want to save the game, then they should listen to us and respond, and they should work to improve things so that as many people as possible enjoy the game. Any more questions?

If they don't want to drive players away from the game they shouldn't have:

1. Rushed the engine
2. Delayed season 1 for as long as they did
3. Delayed a serious balancing go over as long as they did
4. Taken out ranked 8v8
5. Allowed bugs like the lost global cooldown one to last as long as it has
6. Re-broken bugs (Stacking relics) while introducing game breaking new ones (shielding relic)


These are each and every one a larger reason people are distancing themselves from this game than the issue of premades in warzones.
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JP_Legatus
10.15.2013 , 10:03 PM | #5936
Almost 6000 posts in this thread. Wow. For an issue that can be resolved solely through the actions of the player this sure is a big QQ.

Anyways I just wanted to make some kind of contribution to the 6000 posts thread. You may all carry on about whether or not playing with other people in an MMO is good or bad.
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DarthRaika
10.15.2013 , 10:32 PM | #5937
Lol Cash. Think I am a baddy if you want. I have crap gear now and I still top the charts almost every match in dmg and/or prot or healing on all 8 of my chars (doesn't mean much but just saying I'm not a baddy doesn't mean much either).

I am very casual now and so I pretty much only pug my 15-30 matches a week. I premaded the first 5-6 months from release but without premade matching I found pugstomping very boring and I started mainly pugging. I have been widely considered the best in a couple games that I have played rather hardcore and so while you won't believe anything I say I still know I am not a baddy.

I just made the point because I find it rather sad to see the same teams attempting to pugstomp over and over again especially when they can easily do ranked. Given that I don't play much anymore idc whether I fight premades or not and I often enjoy it as fighting better teams does make you a better player.

BTW, since you consider yourself good and I know you premade a lot then I guess you fall into the not happy with your life category. It is ok though because I need people to wash my nice cars.

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cashogy_reborn
10.15.2013 , 10:46 PM | #5938
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthRaika View Post
Lol Cash. Think I am a baddy if you want. I have crap gear now and I still top the charts almost every match in dmg and/or prot or healing on all 8 of my chars (doesn't mean much but just saying I'm not a baddy doesn't mean much either).

I am very casual now and so I pretty much only pug my 15-30 matches a week. I premaded the first 5-6 months from release but without premade matching I found pugstomping very boring and I started mainly pugging. I have been widely considered the best in a couple games that I have played rather hardcore and so while you won't believe anything I say I still know I am not a baddy.

I just made the point because I find it rather sad to see the same teams attempting to pugstomp over and over again especially when they can easily do ranked. Given that I don't play much anymore idc whether I fight premades or not and I often enjoy it as fighting better teams does make you a better player.

BTW, since you consider yourself good and I know you premade a lot then I guess you fall into the not happy with your life category. It is ok though because I need people to wash my nice cars.
Nvm not worth my time. Enjoy your nice life
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LenrocNewDawn
10.16.2013 , 12:54 AM | #5939
How tf comes, that after one year and 6k posts debating this, some people still don't understand that constructing a competing game on rules that make possible gross imbalance between the competing teams is bad game making? Pure and simple. Allowing for imbalance to exist will create the willingness for players to replicate and exploit the said imbalance.
MMO make friends, queue frequency etc are all BS arguments. People will mainly chose the least resistance path to meet their goal (gearing up I would assume). Look at the ranked arena, 4-5 premade (if that) arenas, 15-20 ranked PuG. Why is that? Anyone?

Disclaimer. There are players that enjoy pre-made PvP and queue in ranked arena as a group or used to queue for ranked 8vs8 WZs looking for stiff competition. This post is not about you, you are true competitors and I wish you victories and fun.
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GregAlia
10.16.2013 , 12:56 AM | #5940
OMG how are these threads still running? Complainers, this is an MMO! People want to play together and not always want the stress of high end PvP which is quit challenging. Shut up already. If me and a buddy want to group up go pound sand. Then another guildy messages us to join, now we are 3, go pound some more sand. Make some friends and play with them. I solo que and do fine. I play with my guild mates and have even more fun because we are laughing and joking around. This is not killing PvP. It is actually making it more enjoyable for MOST people.