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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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rlamela
04.26.2013 , 04:34 PM | #2341
Quote: Originally Posted by TonyDragonflame View Post
Solo players dont care how long will be queue for premades.

But I can promise, what solo only queue will be fast

This game looks like piece of sh*t for individual players, when you play solo pug and everytime meet on regular wz high ranked premade on opposite side.
oh no a MMORPG isn't as fun when you solo. You might want to try something called a RPG. It seems it will be more suited for you and your play style. Premades are not ruining warzones, if anything they make them better. And Yes I always solo queued when I played this game. What ruined this games pvp was Bioware listening to the nerf cries and the constant crying about gear gaps. This game pvp was at its best at launch up til 1.1.5 The only issue That ever needed to be addressed was stacking of adrenals and relics.

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sirullrich
04.26.2013 , 04:38 PM | #2342
What I find funny is how pugs believe that they always have a team of 8 pugs vs. 2 OP pvp guild premades all the time. I also find it funny that pugs blame all of there losses on premades. I guess everytime I play a wz it's always premades vs. pugs. I guess the pugs never ever get one premade. I guess premades never get pugs on there team. I guess every premade is also on voice coms, maxed gear, and we love farming pugs. Get over yourselves. Every team has premades and pugs. Just that some premades and pugs are better than other players.
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Kontraz
04.26.2013 , 04:44 PM | #2343
Hell, I remember one time I was in an all-PUG huttball vs an 8-man premade of our servers best PvP guild. Not sure *** happened, but we beat them by a long shot. Was kinda funny, at the post-match scoreboard, all the green was on the bottom, which seldomly happens

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Astarica
04.26.2013 , 04:50 PM | #2344
Quote: Originally Posted by sirullrich View Post
What I find funny is how pugs believe that they always have a team of 8 pugs vs. 2 OP pvp guild premades all the time. I also find it funny that pugs blame all of there losses on premades. I guess everytime I play a wz it's always premades vs. pugs. I guess the pugs never ever get one premade. I guess premades never get pugs on there team. I guess every premade is also on voice coms, maxed gear, and we love farming pugs. Get over yourselves. Every team has premades and pugs. Just that some premades and pugs are better than other players.
If you queue solo it's slightly more likely to end up in PUG than a premade, simply because a game with a 4 man premade has 4 available slots that you've to beat other solo queuers to be in, while a total PUG game have 7 slots for you to join. This means for the solo queuer, the quality of your team is going to be slightly below the average that your side fields. Yes there are bad premades too but generally speaking premades are slightly stronger than 4 random guys.

Also, a premade will never backfill a game in progress, at least I've never seen this happen. Since backfill in games in progress tend to be games where that team is losing badly, this means the premade will see less 'bad' games, at the expense of having less games overall. This isn't necessarily a good thing, as one of the fastest source of comms is to join a game that's about to end in 2 minutes, get 4 medals for say 30 comms. That'd be an equivalent of 150 medals in a 10 minute game, which is not even achieveable as the max comms is 140 + MVP votes.

If one is paranoid, a good strategy would be to just queue up with any random other guy. This will at least ensure you don't end up joining a game where the other side already capped all 3 turrets, or the dreaded siren warning while you're loading Voidstar.

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sirullrich
04.26.2013 , 05:15 PM | #2345
Quote: Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
If you queue solo it's slightly more likely to end up in PUG than a premade, simply because a game with a 4 man premade has 4 available slots that you've to beat other solo queuers to be in, while a total PUG game have 7 slots for you to join. This means for the solo queuer, the quality of your team is going to be slightly below the average that your side fields. Yes there are bad premades too but generally speaking premades are slightly stronger than 4 random guys.

Also, a premade will never backfill a game in progress, at least I've never seen this happen. Since backfill in games in progress tend to be games where that team is losing badly, this means the premade will see less 'bad' games, at the expense of having less games overall. This isn't necessarily a good thing, as one of the fastest source of comms is to join a game that's about to end in 2 minutes, get 4 medals for say 30 comms. That'd be an equivalent of 150 medals in a 10 minute game, which is not even achieveable as the max comms is 140 + MVP votes.

If one is paranoid, a good strategy would be to just queue up with any random other guy. This will at least ensure you don't end up joining a game where the other side already capped all 3 turrets, or the dreaded siren warning while you're loading Voidstar.
I don't know where it is listed but BW confirmed that they put premades on every team.
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Baedwulf
04.26.2013 , 05:21 PM | #2346
LOL... this is still going?

Competition, teamwork and skill is ruining online gaming...

Noted.
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sirullrich
04.26.2013 , 05:28 PM | #2347
Quote: Originally Posted by Baedwulf View Post
LOL... this is still going?

Competition, teamwork and skill is ruining online gaming...

Noted.
Yup. I called it too.
W. O. X.
Karyoten-Moubu-Hyou-KouChan

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Kontraz
04.26.2013 , 05:34 PM | #2348
Quote: Originally Posted by Baedwulf View Post
LOL... this is still going?

Competition, teamwork and skill is ruining online gaming...

Noted.
With the new bolster system, they are (trying) to put players on an even playing field. Kind of like doing multiplayer in Halo or something of the like. In those types of games you can't enter a team match with a premade team because that would - oh **** I broke my argument

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Baedwulf
04.26.2013 , 05:38 PM | #2349
Quote: Originally Posted by Kontraz View Post
With the new bolster system, they are (trying) to put players on an even playing field. Kind of like doing multiplayer in Halo or something of the like. In those types of games you can't enter a team match with a premade team because that would - oh **** I broke my argument
LOL'd... nicely done.
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LeonHawkeye
04.27.2013 , 07:07 PM | #2350
To the top with you.