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Carnage my old friend...

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Carnage my old friend...

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UGLYMRJ
10.10.2012 , 10:26 AM | #1
I haven't played carnage spec in forever... it might have been pre-50 even. So, since the class forums seem to be swarming with the PvE community. Here I am.

Noxxic says: Expertise > Strength >= Accuracy (105%) > Crit (30%) = Surge (75%) > Power/Force Power

But I know MANY successful marauders say "STACK POWAH!!!".

I know there was some changes to expertise at some point but just looking for people's thoughts and opinions.

Expertise & strength over power? Sacrificing expertise for power? Etc....

And what are thoughts about spec'ing into narrowed hatred so I can sacrifice accuracy for other stats? Sounds good on paper for a small bump.

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Xena_Shepard
10.10.2012 , 10:30 AM | #2
As far as I know, the expertise soft cap is 1200. As far as main stat over power (or vice versa) it's very class (and even spec) dependent, and I don't know enough about carnage marauders to comment. All I know is that on my hybrid Assassin, when I switched out all of my power augments for resolve augments I only lost 5.6 bonus damage but gained 1.64% crit. That was worth it to me.

EDIT: Honestly, if you aren't using an orange moddable belt and bracers with PvE armorings and PvP mods, you should be. A lot of excellent PvPers I know run with less than 1200 expertise (ranging from 1150~1180). I do that, but still run with over 1200 expertise.
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10.10.2012 , 10:32 AM | #3
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10.10.2012 , 12:27 PM | #4
As a Commando Medic I believe that Marauders of all specs would benefit greatly from stacking Cunning and Presence.
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UGLYMRJ
10.10.2012 , 12:40 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Capt_Beers View Post
As a Commando Medic I believe that Marauders of all specs would benefit greatly from stacking Cunning and Presence.
Interesting....

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Blasphemerr
10.10.2012 , 12:50 PM | #6
Mr.GrumpyPants has a good post overthere; http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=525404

I went with a complete powerbuild but after the great rage respec I switched out the power augs in my weapons for expertise. Which isn't too terrible ~1290 expertise ~950 force & 610 melee bonus.
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UGLYMRJ
10.10.2012 , 01:30 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Blasphemerr View Post
Mr.GrumpyPants has a good post overthere; http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=525404

I went with a complete powerbuild but after the great rage respec I switched out the power augs in my weapons for expertise. Which isn't too terrible ~1290 expertise ~950 force & 610 melee bonus.
Yeah... I thought about stacking for rage, since everything is on auto crit pretty much I thought about abandoning crit rating for main/power/surge but I don't want invest myself so much into one spec. I actually prefer annihilation over carnage but we need the predation now that we're getting into rated again. I actually wish they would lower the predation so I'm not forced into carnage simply because my guild has very few marauders.

Thanks tho... I'll check it out.

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L-RANDLE
10.10.2012 , 01:31 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Capt_Beers View Post
As a Commando Medic I believe that Marauders of all specs would benefit greatly from stacking Cunning and Presence.
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Wookieenator
10.10.2012 , 05:57 PM | #9
I'm fine in carnage with 0 crit on my gear and just the operative buff. 2 enh with 41 power 53 accuracy rest 41 power 53 surge. Sitting at about 1000-1200 primary damage, 1000 force bonus damage, 22% buffed crit (I have legacy operative buff) and 79% surge.

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10.10.2012 , 07:08 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Wookieenator View Post
I'm fine in carnage with 0 crit on my gear and just the operative buff. 2 enh with 41 power 53 accuracy rest 41 power 53 surge. Sitting at about 1000-1200 primary damage, 1000 force bonus damage, 22% buffed crit (I have legacy operative buff) and 79% surge.
So you rarely crit, other than on force scream.
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