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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns

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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns
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darthnish
02.07.2013 , 11:31 AM | #2531
Quote: Originally Posted by vermura View Post
Just merge all the servers, there is fundamentally, no difference between PVE and PVP servers anyway because of the way the world is laid out.

There are so many barriers to world pvp, the distinction is preety much irrelevant.
merge + open transfers is the best solution, will satisfy everybody

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lucotas
02.07.2013 , 01:31 PM | #2532
A super APAC Server it's what we need
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lucotas
02.07.2013 , 03:22 PM | #2533
we need to keep this thread in the first page if we want a solution
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Evgen
02.07.2013 , 06:29 PM | #2534
Quote: Originally Posted by lucotas View Post
we need to keep this thread in the first page if we want a solution
This is the right way to do that:
Yeah! I have a totally unique idea that no one in over 200 pages has mentioned, we merge the servers!
Unproductive posts aren't against the terms of service while bumping is
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Ailie
02.07.2013 , 08:02 PM | #2535
No wait I've got this

I'll just post a mildly contraversial opinion and everyone can have fun lambasting me for it

So here we go


Gee PvP must have been dead last night thanks to the major Rep guilds running Ops... I mean we had two groups running Tier 2, possibly more groups running, pretty sure there was a 16man HM happening as well... oh and an RP event happening on Imp side

Yep, completely unplayable
Meh...

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sankalp
02.07.2013 , 08:56 PM | #2536
Quote: Originally Posted by Ailie View Post
No wait I've got this

I'll just post a mildly contraversial opinion and everyone can have fun lambasting me for it

So here we go


Gee PvP must have been dead last night thanks to the major Rep guilds running Ops... I mean we had two groups running Tier 2, possibly more groups running, pretty sure there was a 16man HM happening as well... oh and an RP event happening on Imp side

Yep, completely unplayable
To me , it looks like you are unaware of what the term MMO means. You are talking about "ohh we had 2 groups running tier 2" and "pretty sure there was a 16m HM happenning". We are talking about "I need to kill Nim TFB(when it comes, Nim EC is too old) before the 50 other guilds on the server or "I cant wait to see which team we come up against next in PVP coz there are 50 teams in the queue at once"

Do you see the difference in your view and ours. A "Massively Multiplayer" game needs to have a "Massive" population. The population on any one of the APAC servers is hardly "Massive". Hell even a merger will not bring us near The Bastion or Harbinger.

The reason we want a merger it once we have a decent population with a good ping, a lot of old players will come back. This will in turn increase the total population of the APAC super server which is going to be great.

I understand that going from your small pond to a bigger Pond is frighting for you. You are afraid of all the things RPers are afraid of, and hence you have your own servers. The path forward needs to address those issues. But saying you dont want a merger so the 50 real RPers on Gav can continue living in their dreamworld is not a solution.

Server Merge is a solution, and we might need to work a bit more on how to incorporate your 50 people into this solutions. So I will ask you, how do you think we can solve your problem. But trying to not see the bigger picture will get you known as a selfish, self centred person.


BTW, Please dont ramble on about endgame. Doing EC HM is not endgame anymore.

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iheartnyc
02.07.2013 , 09:03 PM | #2537
Quote: Originally Posted by Ailie View Post
No wait I've got this

I'll just post a mildly contraversial opinion and everyone can have fun lambasting me for it

So here we go


Gee PvP must have been dead last night thanks to the major Rep guilds running Ops... I mean we had two groups running Tier 2, possibly more groups running, pretty sure there was a 16man HM happening as well... oh and an RP event happening on Imp side

Yep, completely unplayable
For the love of all things, please please please get this through your head. The world is not black and white. We are not talking about "unplayable" vs. "playable." We know there are enough people to do the "content." We are talking about the QUALITY of the playability.

Playing the SAME 20 people in WZs several times a day everyday for weeks on end is soul crushing. Maybe "raids" are a bit different, but I don't think so. Diversity in the player base introduces you to new playstyles, different ideas, more competition, an incentive to improve your game, plus you can make more friends and have more chances of meaningful interaction. It also makes you less dependent on other people's schedules and real life commitments.

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Ailie
02.07.2013 , 09:03 PM | #2538
Congrats... totally missed the point of my post but hey, I still achieved my objective
Meh...

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iheartnyc
02.07.2013 , 09:27 PM | #2539
Quote: Originally Posted by Ailie View Post
Congrats... totally missed the point of my post but hey, I still achieved my objective
No need to be passive-aggressive. Being vague and avoiding confrontation by side-stepping the points that people thoughtfully make in response to your claims really does nothing for you except alienating those who are trying to have a serious discussion on the topic. Could you be any more smug? Whatever makes you feel better about yourself I guess. Just my 2 cents on how not to be socially awkward.

To get this thread back on track. I know a lot of people use hyperbole and say that our servers are unplayable. That is an exaggeration. However, to reiterate what so many people have been saying, low population means that it is harder to play the content (e.g., nobody to group with for planetary heroics, harder to find groups for Ops), and my main point that the quality of the experience suffers by not having a wider player base to choose from and to learn from. But I think most of us are in agreement on that.

So yes, server mergers and/or transfers are necessary. I would like to see both options on the table. I know a lot of you don't want to allow transfers as presumably a lot of players would leave the APAC servers. But I don't think any of us should have the right to hold hostage players who desire to leave. I believe the Devs said paid-transfers are coming, so at the least we should all prepare for that once it does happen.

And the really crappy thing is, some of us have been saying these things since July 2012. But people like you Allie said, "it's fine. Wait until F2P, it'll come soon, it's fine." Guess what Allie? F2P came and went. And so did the vast majority of our friends in the game. It is only just a game, but people that we've spent hours getting to know in game, on vent/skype/mumble/TS, all gone on to other things because what we have been asking for since July, has not been addressed in any meaningful way. I'm not so much angry, as disappointed and a bit sad to see those players go. They were some of the people who defined the game for us. Taught us how to play, craft, showed us where to find the Datacrons. They were our guildmasters, our raid leaders, PvP team leaders. Now those of us who are left have to try to figure out how to fill those roles for the rest of the server, except, there is no rest of the server. It's just us. I know many others feel the same way.

It is enough that we have Developers who ignore us and not give us any timetable of any solution. We don't need you, Allie, to tell us everything is fine and that we should just deal with it.

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Ailie
02.07.2013 , 09:33 PM | #2540
Oh and in addition and contrary to popular belief, no I'm not delusional and am actually quite a nice person.

Thing is, I'm happy with how things are on Gav, I don't feel a need to mass merge the servers and I'm entitled to express that opinion.

Mass merging the servers would likely impact on my enjoyment of the game, again I'm entitled to express that and fight for my right to enjoy the game

I am also aware that there are a number of people who would simply prefer more people to play with, and good luck to you but I don't want that to impact on my enjoyment of the game by shifting me to a server I don't want to be on

I am also aware that a number of players on this server are not happy, and am acutely aware that for some of these people the reason they have trouble is because people actively avoid playing with them and simply suggest that perhaps if they made a bit more effort to be likeable they wouldn't encounter as many issues

So that's a summary of my position on these forums. You can all think whatever you want I really don't care, but frankly the more whinging and abuse people post here just drives more and more people away from the server.
Meh...