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Canon ten most powerful Jedi and Sith.

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Canon ten most powerful Jedi and Sith.

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Temeluchus
07.25.2012 , 05:06 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Newyankalt View Post
1. The Sith Emperor/Lord vitiate
Why: He reconstructed the sith empire and ruled it for over 1000 years making him one if not the longest ruling sith of all time.The Emperor made Revan and malak obey to his commands later starting the jedi civl war and discovery of the star forge. He was eventualy defeated by the hero of tython.

The Hero of Tython defeated the Voice,not the Emperor.

Abilities: Even as a child the emperor was very powerful with the force he killed his father with just a thought.He used the force to drain the life and force from a plane to achieve immortatiltyt. The emperor could easily dominate the minds of others to obey him. He easily defeated revan with his mastery of telekinesis.



4.Marka Ragnos
Why: Ragnos clamined the title dark lord of the sith and became the emperor he took vitiate as an apprentice and taught him further in the ways of the sith. Whule he was in power it was known as the golden age of the sith.

It's unknown if Ragnos took Vitiate as an actual apprentice or just taught him a few things.


Abilities:Marka Ragnos was considered to be one of the most powerful sith of all time even after death he managed to keep his sprit alive and kept growing power he was nearly risen again on korriban but the jedi jaden korr defeated him.


6. Darth Revan
Why: Revan was the most powerful jedi of his time it was his leadership that allowed the republic to defeat the mandalorians in battle. He later became a sith sparking the jedi civil war on the galaxy he went to the star forge single handly and defeated his old apprentice darth malak and saving bastila shan. After the star forge he went into the unkowen regions back to defeat the true sith threat that only he knew about .

Debatable on whether Revan was the most powerful Jedi of his time, I'd say at the very least the Exile was far more powerful and had a larger,farther reaching impact on the galaxy as a whole.


Abilities: Revan was both strong with the froce and a lightsaber. He was one of the best tactians in all of the jedi. In revans time there was hardly any match for him besides the sith emperor himself who traped him in statis at the foundry.



9. Darth Plageuis
Why: He had the ability to create life he used this ability to create anakin skywalker inside of shimi. He taught darth sidious the ways of the force and the dark side.

The Force "conceived" Anakin in Shmi's womb in response to Plageuis and Sidious attempting to swing the balance of power towards the Dark Side.

Abilities:He was the master of the unnatrual aspects of the force He is best known for the ability to create life. Plagueis used 2 lightsabers in combat. He was able to asorb blaster bolts than channeling them into force lighting. He could save other from death but not himself.


Good list. But some of your info was a bit wrong,enough to have me respond to some of the errors.
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Rayla_Felana
07.25.2012 , 05:19 PM | #42
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What about Bastila? Bastila had very, very powerful force us, (KotOR of course). She had Battle Meditation which canonly would turn the tide of battles, especially the Star Forge battle which the Sith were winning by a mile, and then when she used her battle meditation, the Republic fought back and won. This was just one of her abilities.
Bastila was actually pretty unremarkable, besides Battle Meditation, the only reason she is even on the map is because of her partner, Revan.

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Selenial
07.25.2012 , 05:33 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
Revan when he was a Jedi Knight was nowhere near the Top 10, Darth Revan wasn't close either, and Reborn Revan isn't even a Jedi or a Sith any ways, so I really don't get why.
*Cough* Wrong *Cough*
Revan, after defeating malak etc, stayed the rank of Jedi Knight. That means Technically he is still a Jedi.
But id get why you'd say he wasn't, given your incredbile bias towards him. You cant stand revan, and ive seen this in multiple threads.... But it doesnt matter
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Selenial
07.25.2012 , 05:39 PM | #44
My list, is: (canon reasons coming later)
1: Lord Vitiate
2: Naga Sadow
3: Meetra Surik (Widely known as the Jedi Exile)
4: Darth Nihilus
5: Darth Traya
6: Darth Knox
7: 3rd Barsen Thor
8: Revan Reborn
9: Exar Kun
10: Bastilla Shan (I get she wasnt the most powerful of jedi, but her ability to empower jedi and make them much stronger could change the course of battles, and thats strong.)
The Mandalorian Wars were a series of massacres that masked another war, a war of conversion. Culminating in a final atrocity that no Jedi could walk away from… save one.
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Rayla_Felana
07.25.2012 , 06:07 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial View Post
*Cough* Wrong *Cough*
Revan, after defeating malak etc, stayed the rank of Jedi Knight. That means Technically he is still a Jedi.
But id get why you'd say he wasn't, given your incredbile bias towards him. You cant stand revan, and ive seen this in multiple threads.... But it doesnt matter
He is a Jedi Knight in title only, the ONLY reason the Jedi High Council didn't boot him out was because the Public saw him as a hero, they rejected him and his teachings completely, he was not a Jedi and I highly doubt he even saw himself as a Jedi, please 'bias' has nothing to do with it, read the novel.

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Syra_Meleu
07.25.2012 , 07:02 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
Bastila was actually pretty unremarkable, besides Battle Meditation, the only reason she is even on the map is because of her partner, Revan.
'Additionally, Shan was a skilled lightsaber duelist, and wielded a double bladed lightsaber in combat. She proved capable of dueling the redeemed Revan, Jolee Bindo, and Juhani atop the Temple of the Ancients and emerging relatively unscathed, albeit defeated.[2] Shan also managed to hold her ground against Darth Malak long enough for Revan and Carth Onasi to escape. It should be noted that Malak was considered to be one of the greatest swordsmen of his time.'

Wookiepedia.

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BrandonSM
07.25.2012 , 07:26 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Temeluchus View Post
Good list. But some of your info was a bit wrong,enough to have me respond to some of the errors.
Spoiler
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BrandonSM
07.25.2012 , 07:28 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Syra_Meleu View Post
'Additionally, Shan was a skilled lightsaber duelist, and wielded a double bladed lightsaber in combat. She proved capable of dueling the redeemed Revan, Jolee Bindo, and Juhani atop the Temple of the Ancients and emerging relatively unscathed, albeit defeated.[2] Shan also managed to hold her ground against Darth Malak long enough for Revan and Carth Onasi to escape. It should be noted that Malak was considered to be one of the greatest swordsmen of his time.'

Wookiepedia.
Allot of Characters from KOTOR hide in the shadow of Revan... especially Malak and Meetra and Bastila and you get the point.
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."

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Rayla_Felana
07.25.2012 , 07:34 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Syra_Meleu View Post
'Additionally, Shan was a skilled lightsaber duelist, and wielded a double bladed lightsaber in combat. She proved capable of dueling the redeemed Revan, Jolee Bindo, and Juhani atop the Temple of the Ancients and emerging relatively unscathed, albeit defeated.[2] Shan also managed to hold her ground against Darth Malak long enough for Revan and Carth Onasi to escape. It should be noted that Malak was considered to be one of the greatest swordsmen of his time.'

Wookiepedia.
As far as I remember, she'd be enhanced by her use of the Dark Side and didn't even last that long before she relented, same goes with Malak.

And as Brandon said, in that time, everybody got overshadowed by the posterboy of the era.

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Syra_Meleu
07.25.2012 , 07:35 PM | #50
And for all of those Revan haters, Revan was THE strongest force user, lightsaber duelist and overall 'best' Jedi / Sith of his time, which tells you something (he is strong), sourced from wookiepedia of course.

@ Rayla, she held of Malak for a long period of time (whilst Lightside) and again, he was considered a top swordmaster and force user.