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The Gamer from Hell


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Tatile
07.12.2012 , 03:57 PM | #11
Nothing really bad that I can remember, though for the most part we run as three of the guild (usually picking up a DPS), but once we did pick up a random tank. That was... interesting. He wasn't bad per se, but he was a bit of a dick. Generally his mannerisms were dickish, everything he said had a dickish tone and he did not allow me to CC fleshies (Operative) in places where it could have been beneficial. However his guild is "known" to us, so for the most part if we see them in the LFG we know we're going to get a player who probably knows what they're doing with the shiny buttons but who also might be a bit of a dick.

We did get him to stop talking by giving out the wrongest tactics ever. Did you know HK-47 has a shark pit?

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Pistols
07.12.2012 , 04:15 PM | #12
For me, the gamer from hell is the RP/PvE types who come into PvP WZ's without the proper gear. And now, when Recruit is given out for free and the excuses of "it's too expensive" are gone, I get no reply back as to why most of the time they're under-geared or in PvE gear. Mind you, I usually ask via a whisper or sometimes in Ops chat without abusing them, yet they will pretend not to see the chat and proceed to get destroyed. I've had many players flat out reply with the most moronic answers as to why:

1. Recruit is ugly, this robe looks much better on me.

2. Expertise is overrated.

3. I'm just going to sit at a node.

This is the gamer from hell for me, as the gear is very important, and just generally can be a deal breaker. Typically, these players flat out do not care, as most of the time they die once or twice, then sit at a node and pretend to be Luke Skywalker. Unlike PvE where you can at least check someones gear before you start a FP/HM, WZ's are typically a crap shoot on whether you get someone who is properly geared.

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iamthehoyden
07.12.2012 , 04:29 PM | #13
I don't use /ignore much. It takes more than one iffy action to get put on my list because people make mistakes, sometimes they don't know better, and occasionally they're just having a bad moment. (I've had them, goodness knows.)

That said, there are a couple people who have managed to find a place on my sparsely populated /ignore list. So "Gamer From Hell" exhibit A is a dps who does not speak in group, insists on jumping into every group first, does not respond when asked to wait for the tank to aggro the group, breaks every cc laid down, does not respond when asked directly (multiple times) not to break the ccs, and loots every mob that drops before the fight is done (again after being asked not to do so).

Exhibit B is a stealth dps who I had the misfortune to run a BH heroic with. Again with the breaking ccs, not responding to requests not to do so, randomly doing a "brb" and then being gone for a good long while, but the really lovely part with this one was that since he was stealthed he ran ahead of the rest of the group and then sat at the final boss waiting for us to fight through the mobs "cause he usually solos this heroic." Really???

At any rate, moral of the story, communicate and don't be an *****hole.
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Captain_Zone
07.12.2012 , 04:58 PM | #14
There are several that make my list.

- The afforementioned "PvP God" that thinks he's better than everyone else. If you whine while winning, you really do need serious help in a nice padded room.

- The Zerger Tank who thinks that everyone else needs to keep up with him. Seriously, if you can't wait for the Healer to recharge after a big fight, then you deserve to get pwned by the next group you run into. And if you blame the Healer, you also need to join the "PvP God" in a nice padded room. The game does not revolve around you.

- The KS accuser. There I was, killing mobs in a Belsavis vault on my Gunslinger, and this Shadow Says in chat: "You play like an Imperial. Stop being a ****head." I was like "What???" And he said "You're taking my kills." So I was like (since I had to turn around to see him behind me) "Dude, I had no idea you were even there. You were BEHIND ME. DUH!" then I placed him on /ignore with a quickness.

- And last but not least, the Ninja Looter. The guy who runs in and grabs the security chest while you're busy clearing it. If you want the loot, clear it yourself.
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ShawnSixtyTwo
07.12.2012 , 06:04 PM | #15
I've had very good luck with the group finder. Nobody's been a jerk - even in a couple groups where one or more of the players were undergeared so bad they couldn't hack it and we wiped repeatedly before declaring failure.

The jerkiest thing I've seen was a Bounty Hunter that came along and killed the Republic NPCs I had dragged into my attempt at soloing the Force Ghost on Ilum with my healer scoundrel. Just wanted to do it for fun and to see if i could. If i did it I'd make a magenta crystal for Kira on my artifice Sentinel main. Big freaking deal, right?

No, this dude decided I was exploiting in HIS game and it was his duty to stop it. Nevermind that I was failing anyway - bad energy management at the start and I was behind on healing Corso. Really, it was a good grief/troll move, and I could laugh at it if it was. But no, he had to use all the rude emotes in the bag after I wiped and make his little declaration about me "exploiting" over say. Again, I thought it was a pretty good griefing/troll move... but when he says "there's a reason you're supposed to have a group for that" I had to laugh. By that logic soloing heroics with the use of stealth is "exploiting". To which he says "I solo heroics..." WHOOSH, right over his head.

It gets better. A few minutes later I get some whispers from another name saying I'm the "talk of the republic fleet" about how "i got owned". Well, no, griefed, really - and it didn't change the outcome; like I said, I was going down anyway. Clearly this is his republic alt and his life is truly sad. After more inane ramblings from him he says he's going "back to Barrens chat" to tell the Imps of "my fail". Yeah, I'm sure everyone cares.

I forgot to write down the name of the BH and/or add him to ignore before logging, but I got the alt. Then I found out SWTOR doesn't save a chat log locally. I think I remember and I'll just keep checking /who when I think of it to see if I'm right, then iggy.

The Imperial side, from what I've seen, is a lot jerkier than the Republic. Not sure I want to continue my alts over there or not just based on this incident and what I've seen in Imp general chat. Not to mention the only names I've ever reported came from the Imps on the Harbinger.
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Malles
07.12.2012 , 06:48 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Zone View Post
There are several that make my list.

- The afforementioned "PvP God" that thinks he's better than everyone else. If you whine while winning, you really do need serious help in a nice padded room.

- The Zerger Tank who thinks that everyone else needs to keep up with him. Seriously, if you can't wait for the Healer to recharge after a big fight, then you deserve to get pwned by the next group you run into. And if you blame the Healer, you also need to join the "PvP God" in a nice padded room. The game does not revolve around you.

- The KS accuser. There I was, killing mobs in a Belsavis vault on my Gunslinger, and this Shadow Says in chat: "You play like an Imperial. Stop being a ****head." I was like "What???" And he said "You're taking my kills." So I was like (since I had to turn around to see him behind me) "Dude, I had no idea you were even there. You were BEHIND ME. DUH!" then I placed him on /ignore with a quickness.

- And last but not least, the Ninja Looter. The guy who runs in and grabs the security chest while you're busy clearing it. If you want the loot, clear it yourself.
Hahahahahahaha I used to be that guy.

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Pubsam
07.12.2012 , 07:45 PM | #17
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The Gamer from Hell?

LFG PUG

Myself as a freshly 50 vanguard tank, a sage healer, a commando and a sentinel. Taral V HM, so not all that long OR hard. Except...

Sentinel kept running ahead of us, aggroing everything. I mark a target and he AOEs after the cc goes in, then blames ME for not holding aggrro. We hit the captain boss, and he decids to pull aggro on the beast and the captain before I can taunt again. We wipe and of course it is MY fault.

Then he COMPLETELY ignores the strategy for the laser eye boss, gets 3 shotted and starts yelling at the healer of all people. And he wasn't done!

Final boss, I wanted to LOS him, pull him away from his turrets. Sensible, right? Not for this sentinel. As soon as I pull the boss he jumps in, gets slammed into the ground and almost insta-gibbed. My fault of course, as the tank, I should have done what HE wanted to do, even though standing in plain view for the turrets to chop me to pieces made no sense.

And his excuse? I was slow. The healer was slow. None of US knew how to play. None of US wanted to help HIM win. He proceeded to tell me -a founder who played the beta, and from launch- to L2P. MY response? /ignore.

The LFG tool is exactly what I feared it would be. A tool for angry anti-social people to abuse others. I use it every day with premade groups of guildies for BH comms and nothing else. Its just not worth the aggravation.
If he was bothering you and the healer so much, why not just kick him? I think you only need one other vote, and frankly as DPS he's pretty powerless.

I'm a terribly polite person, and the only kicks I've seen since the LFG hit were for DC'd people, but there are no excuses for taking crap from people you don't need to take! I don't like kicking people, so I usually just leave group unless the offender is being really verbally abusive. But in ToR the rudest thing I've seen is "SPACEBAAAAR PLOX."

But mostly I've encountered people being very decent, even in the face of wipes and having to explain fights. Don't be afraid of LFD if your guildies aren't on! Rude people are a result of pugging in general, not necessarily this tool.
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Kurokage
07.12.2012 , 11:43 PM | #18
I was a beta tester, so I've seen a pretty wide spectrum of players. Every time they sent out a new wave of invites, we'd get a massive influx of gamers from hell.

The one that annoyed me the most is when their playstyles didn't match their classes. Healers trying to DPS annoyed me so much that I started playing a healer myself, just so I wouldn't have to deal with other healers...

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LieutenantCole
07.13.2012 , 03:21 AM | #19
I almost always have bad experiences with Sentinels/Maruaders, I dunno, but most of the ones I meet think they are unkillable machines capable of destroying anything that comes in ther way. So they will initiate before the tank, attack mobs that the group isn't attacking, etc. Just 'cause they have two sabers, I guess.

Eh, might just be my server.

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dronepilot
07.13.2012 , 03:43 AM | #20
in groups, people don't usually like it when you 'need' for everything anyway. Just don't do it !! - from the story the OP explained, its really one of many. I was in one group for an heroic recently, where the guys I was in a group with, didn't understand how to operate as a team, and would not CC anything. Of course the healer died in seconds..

Experiences like that put me off wanting to group at all with anyone to be honest, its not just a matter of playing at a certain level, its understanding how to play the mission. If people don't know, or haven't done it before, really need to say before hand, so they can be walked through 'how to' do the mission.

I am not worried if some one is lesser geared, or has lesser experience, just that so the group know, so they can be helped on their first runs.

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- And last but not least, the Ninja Looter. The guy who runs in and grabs the security chest while you're busy clearing it. If you want the loot, clear it yourself.
See this so many times ! - really NOT funny. Try Black Hole dailies.. yes you know who you are
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