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PvP - What YOU should be doing in warzones

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PvP - What YOU should be doing in warzones

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DarthMaulUK
05.07.2012 , 01:56 AM | #1
if this thread helped - Please RATE IT!!
Updated: 9-07-2012

After playing hundreds and hundreds of warzones, recently, I have noticed a new breed of pvp players who simply dont know what they are doing.

So here is some advice -
CALLING FOR HELP
This is a weird one. Some prefer saying East/West or Left/Right(as it appears from the doors/ship) or on Civil War - some say Grass/Snow. Ideally youre team should be aware of what has been capped and what isnt. East/West is most popular. North is always the direction of the door/ship exit - so use that as your guide.

Huttball
1 - Pass the ball.
This is an ability found in your (Press P) list of abilities once you ding lvl 10. Once you select it to pass, a dial will appear on the ground, so you can move it and pass to a team mate.

2 - MOVE!!
If you want to win, movement is key in Huttball. Instead of trying to always protect the ball carrier - which can be almost impossible - MOVE ahead, so they can pass to you.

3 - Be aware of what is around you.
Some players stealth into key positions on the ledges or, in YOUR teams end zone. Be mindful. if you see someone there, alert your team and/or take care of them with a simple knock back or of course KILL THEM

4 - Remember the objectives
Running around killing is fun but Huttball has objectives. Scoring is good, winning is good - you get more PvP coms/valour/xp love when you win.

VoidStar
1 - WATCH the doors
If your enemy are trying to draw you out to fight them - think why? In most cases, if you take the bait - someone will ninja in and plant the bomb

2 - ALWAYS call for help
This is where so many fail. If your side is under heavy attack, dont just try 1v4 and die, ony for your team mates to discover that the bomb has been planted and YOU said nothing. Always call for help. Call 'Inc'(short for incoming) when you see them coming at you(even if its just 1 player, there could be stealths around).

Planting the bomb
When planting a bomb at the door, you DO NOT need 3 people to plant it!!!!!! The rest of the team mates need to guard that player from interuptions and stop AoE's from taking place.

3 - The Bridge
If the enemy extend the bridge - CHECK both doors incase a ninja is around planting the bomb. Try not to get entangled in skirmishes if your enemy are rushing across the bridge. You need to defend those doors!!

Civil War/Novra
1 - 1v4(or more) simply wont work
The amount of times I have seen players respawn and charge in to battle against a group of enemy, only to die and then charge in again. WAIT for your team mates - group up then hit the location you want.

2 - ALWAYS call for help
Same with Voidstar. If you are alone and holding a location whilst your team are trying to cap elsewhere - NEVER NEVER NEVER take your eyes off that turret/emplacement. Keep looking all around you. The second you see, or come under attack from stealth - CALL FOR HELP.

Yes, some will use the excuse 'I was too busy fighting' - Lame!!!! The second you are hit(by stealth) - call for help at your location and try to hold them off until help arrives.

3 - Fight ON your turret/emplacement locations
Its easy as hell to be sucked out and drawn into battles elsewhere on the map, but if you dont actually do the fighting on the turret/emplacement nodes - a) you wont score defender points b)you run the risk of losing that location.

Other tips -
Healers - If they are marked, they should be the first player you attack. Ive lost count how many times Ive seen people attack any ol' player - but they wont die, since they are being HEALED all the time. Its laughable.

Warzone Maps - Press M to check your warzone map to check how things are going. It wont show the enemy but you can see if your team need help or are being drawn out and run the risk of losing that location - A simple ' fight on the turret' goes a long way.

Awareness
1. Keep your head on a swivel/Situational Awareness: zoom your camera out as far as possible and constantly pan the camera if you're not currently engaged in a fight. It helps with your situational awareness by allowing you to see people running up behind you, so you're more ready for any situation. This is probably the largest key to anything in life - Situational Awareness.

2. Keep your eyes on the prize: Doors, Computer console, Flags, etc - If you're fighting, pan your camera or turn yourself so that you can see if someone is trying to ninja it behind you so that you can interrupt them.

3. Don't get tunnel vision: You aren't a "MOB", don't let them pull/lure you away from what you should be guarding. Use your head, and play for the win; not your kill meter.


New PvP'ers(and even new 50s)
Kill steal! - In some cases, you simply wont win a 1on1(especially if you are a new lvl 50) - so pick your targets wisely. If someone is low on health - attack them, grab a kill. Until you are geared up, you will always remain cannon fodder.

Use Guard, and know who to use it on
It can be easy to forget to throw up a Guard on someone, but the benefits for both you and them are very important. You should always be guarding someone, even if it's just the first person you see when you respawn--but ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS switch your Guard to a healer whenever possible, and barring that place it on a DPS. Don't Guard another tank (supertanking almost never is worthwhile in PvP), with the sole exception being if they have the ball in Huttball.


Any other tips welcome....

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Bazookabill
05.07.2012 , 02:11 AM | #2
Good post ..

1. The new warzone ....
points cap faster the more people that click the computer terminal in the tents..when you clear click, before anything..even if others are on it.

2. Marks...
they can be keybound now, bind them to your numberpad ...
mark healers when you see them right away.
I use green thing, then target ,then star for healers.
I "am" the droid your looking for.

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Odahviin
05.07.2012 , 02:15 AM | #3
That you need to spell this out to players is the worst part.

Thanks for taking the time to write this guide.

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Saint_Bailey
05.07.2012 , 02:29 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMaulUK View Post
Any other tips welcome....
Here's my opinion when it comes to class roles.

Dps, other than focusing on healers, your other main goal is to cap objectives/defend objectives. Healers will be too occupied healing people and kiting to have time to cap. Just as tanks will be preoccupied sticking with your healers keeping them from harms way, also tanks should also be focusing on interrupting opposing caps in WZ such as Alderaan and Voidstar. Stealth non healing classes should constantly try for objectives, burning down one man defenders to grab that quick cap.

It's not all about numbers...

What would be nice if there were an individual end game stat windows per wz which contain objective information such as:

VS: interrupted cap, defused, planted, defended.
HB: Assist, scored, saves (killed Ball carrier).
Ald: Capped, interrupted cap, defense, offense, assisted cap.

Getting the idea here? That way people can actually see what people are actively doing during the warzone, rather than watch DPS classes run around like mad people trying to get huge numbers.

Well, that's my opinion for what it's worth.
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Darth-Rammstein
05.07.2012 , 02:33 AM | #5
A new breed of pvp players? lol, people have always been idiots in pvp...look at wow, that game is around 8 years old and people still don't know the basics of wsg, ab, av. I've already given up on people but nice guide though...too bad none of the people who need to see it ever will.
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JaniLeitquenen
05.07.2012 , 02:55 AM | #6
Great post. People should read this if they have any intention to PVP in Warzones at all.

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Onikcys
05.07.2012 , 03:03 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Odahviin View Post
That you need to spell this out to players is the worst part.

Thanks for taking the time to write this guide.
Common sense, unfortunately, is not that common.

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Wesgile
05.07.2012 , 03:05 AM | #8
problem:
those that really needs to be taught these basic concepts,
won't even bother reading them.
大丈夫だ、問題ない。

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skotish
05.07.2012 , 03:19 AM | #9
Great guide

Just wish as a merc heals that when my marked counterpart is there i have to be the 1 dpsing him as no one pays attention lol
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Kunkoh
05.07.2012 , 03:24 AM | #10
Great post because it's informative and rather than friendly. I would love to see this stickied on the forums. It doesn't deride new players but tries to help them. I'm not the best PvPer, but I love it and am always trying to improve; so there are always things I'm trying to work on - and these are those things (my tips).

1. Keep your head on a swivel/Situational Awareness:
zoom your camera out as far as possible and constantly pan the camera if you're not currently engaged in a fight. It helps with your situational awareness by allowing you to see people running up behind you, so you're more ready for any situation. This is probably the largest key to anything in life - Situational Awareness.

2. Keep your eyes on the prize: Doors, Computer console, Flags, etc - If you're fighting, pan your camera or turn yourself so that you can see if someone is trying to ninja it behind you so that you can interrupt them.

3. Don't get tunnel vision: You aren't a "MOB", don't let them pull/lure you away from what you should be guarding. Use your head, and play for the win; not your kill meter.

4. Kill their support to win: Mark and destroy their healers first. You aren't going to kill that DPS target if there is someone sitting behind them healing them.

5a. Assist your allies: DPS - Attack the same target to maximize your teams DPS. If you come up on a fight in progress, combine your DPS with another on your team to quickly and efficiently eliminate targets - especially their healers.

5b. Assist your allies: Support - Your own healers are fragile but are crucial to victory. By keeping your "head on a swivel", you can see when they have dps on them. Use guard, taunt, pulls, pushes, stuns, snares, and anything else you have to protect them and get the dps off. They can't heal you well when they are running for their life, and they heal even worse when they are waiting to respawn.
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