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Remove Valor requirements for BM gear pls

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Remove Valor requirements for BM gear pls

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Reeny
04.17.2012 , 01:55 PM | #1
With the crafted BM gear, there are Valor requirements.
These valor requirements are high as well, lvl 70?

This defeats the purpose of crafted gear.
If people are already valor 70, they probably would already have a full set of BM gear.
Why would they want to buy a custom set, except for the Augment slot?

The valor requirements limit it to an extremely small set of people.
How many people have the Valor requirements?

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JHoltJHolt
04.17.2012 , 02:00 PM | #2
That's the point... I don't get it? You want something for nothing? Get to valor rank 70 so you can wear it. This post is rediculous, and I've been seeing a lot of this QQ ******** ALOT lately. Like you're DEMANDING BW to do what you personally want, because YOU don't like it. Screw that, man up and play the game, don't ask for something for nothing!
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Reeny
04.17.2012 , 02:37 PM | #3
What's the point of making a whole set of custom armor for an extremely small set of people?
That small set of people who in all probability, dont even need that armor.

Does not compute.

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Akella
04.17.2012 , 02:46 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Reeny View Post
What's the point of making a whole set of custom armor for an extremely small set of people?
That small set of people who in all probability, dont even need that armor.

Does not compute.
It's for the chance to crit an augment slot on said gear for people who earned the valor rank to wear said gear. End of story.

The new tier of Ops gear will be able to be RE'd for a chance at an orange schematic from what I've read. Allowing the same thing for PVP gear is only fair imho.
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Aieny
04.17.2012 , 02:50 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Reeny View Post
With the crafted BM gear, there are Valor requirements.
These valor requirements are high as well, lvl 70?

This defeats the purpose of crafted gear.
If people are already valor 70, they probably would already have a full set of BM gear.
Why would they want to buy a custom set, except for the Augment slot?

The valor requirements limit it to an extremely small set of people.
How many people have the Valor requirements?
To purchase BM gear, you need commendations earned from WZ. And that gear is BoP, so you can't purchase it and trade it to another. The crafted gear, which has a chance of a crit success and an augment slot, would be utterly useless if it were BoP, so they were made BoE. In exchange, (to prevent those who have never set foot into a WZ from wearing it), they require "proof" of WZ experience, in terms of a Valor level.

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Reeny
04.17.2012 , 02:59 PM | #6
Give people choices, choices on what they want to wear.

If only Social Dancer outfits can have Augments, max-min people would all be wearing Social Dancer outfits.

So, dont place restrictions on ANY of the gear.
It doesnt make sense to restrict people to what Bioware thinks people should wear.

Give people plenty of choices and let the people decide.

Everytime a developer thinks they know better, they are almost certainly wrong.

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Diopter
04.17.2012 , 03:18 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Reeny View Post
Give people choices, choices on what they want to wear.

If only Social Dancer outfits can have Augments, max-min people would all be wearing Social Dancer outfits.

So, dont place restrictions on ANY of the gear.
It doesnt make sense to restrict people to what Bioware thinks people should wear.

Give people plenty of choices and let the people decide.

Everytime a developer thinks they know better, they are almost certainly wrong.
There aren't any set bonuses for wearing a complete suit of social gear, whereas there are set bonuses for wearing PvP armor. Being able to remove the mods from existing BM gear and placing them into the crafted PvP oranges will retain that set bonus - it will not be retained with social gear. While we are allowed to take the mods and now armoring out of our existing BM gear, if we want to keep the set bonuses for it with an augment slot, we have to use the critical crafted orange.

There are other schematics for orange gear if you can find them, where they require a certain level to use. Should we just reduce all orange gear to not have a level restriction, or a social restriction? What I gather from your OP is that you're level 50, haven't PvP'd enough to get the WZ coms to buy BM gear, and so you want to try and craft it, but it restricted you because your valor (from PvP) is too low, and so you just want it because you want it.
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Charlimit
04.17.2012 , 03:22 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Diopter View Post
There aren't any set bonuses for wearing a complete suit of social gear, whereas there are set bonuses for wearing PvP armor. Being able to remove the mods from existing BM gear and placing them into the crafted PvP oranges will retain that set bonus - it will not be retained with social gear. While we are allowed to take the mods and now armoring out of our existing BM gear, if we want to keep the set bonuses for it with an augment slot, we have to use the critical crafted orange.

There are other schematics for orange gear if you can find them, where they require a certain level to use. Should we just reduce all orange gear to not have a level restriction, or a social restriction? What I gather from your OP is that you're level 50, haven't PvP'd enough to get the WZ coms to buy BM gear, and so you want to try and craft it, but it restricted you because your valor (from PvP) is too low, and so you just want it because you want it.
Actually, the BM gear does not transfer the set bonus. In addition, the crafted BM gear is the EMPTY SHELL with no bonuses, so even with augments if you wanted the set bonus you'd have to put Campaign or War Hero mods into the shell.

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Reeny
04.17.2012 , 03:26 PM | #9
This is a good point.
Why restrict PvP people to wearing only these PvP armor?

Why not allow the PvP mods to bring set bonuses to other gear if the mods all go together?
Place all your PvP mods into a Social Dancer outfit and the set bonuses will be there.
You can then Pvp in whatever outfit you want and not restricted to BM/Warhero whatever armor.

Everyone looks the same then if PvP people only wear PvP armor.
How boring is that?
If your PvP armor looks like crap, u still have to wear it.

Again, let the player choose what they want to wear, dont restrict people to anything.


Quote: Originally Posted by Diopter View Post
There aren't any set bonuses for wearing a complete suit of social gear, whereas there are set bonuses for wearing PvP armor. Being able to remove the mods from existing BM gear and placing them into the crafted PvP oranges will retain that set bonus - it will not be retained with social gear. While we are allowed to take the mods and now armoring out of our existing BM gear, if we want to keep the set bonuses for it with an augment slot, we have to use the critical crafted orange.

There are other schematics for orange gear if you can find them, where they require a certain level to use. Should we just reduce all orange gear to not have a level restriction, or a social restriction? What I gather from your OP is that you're level 50, haven't PvP'd enough to get the WZ coms to buy BM gear, and so you want to try and craft it, but it restricted you because your valor (from PvP) is too low, and so you just want it because you want it.

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Diopter
04.17.2012 , 03:27 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Charlimit View Post
Actually, the BM gear does not transfer the set bonus. In addition, the crafted BM gear is the EMPTY SHELL with no bonuses, so even with augments if you wanted the set bonus you'd have to put Campaign or War Hero mods into the shell.
Could have sworn it was for both sets. Oh well, set bonuses aside, my underlying point still stands.

I'm a scoundrel anyways, and would rather wear armor with an augment slot since the set bonuses are pretty "meh" to me and our PvP armor is ugly. :P
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