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Shield Tech help

DwarfSpider's Avatar

02.04.2012 , 11:18 AM | #1
I just want to state that I'm no stranger to tanking. I've tanked endgame in every MMO I've ever played. I know SWTOR is a new style of tanking, but the mechanics are fairly simmilar if not the same to what I'm used to. Having seen some of the mittigation and avoidance information, I'm still trying to figure out if I'm doing something wrong. I am all in Shield Tech tree right now with points spent in mittigation tallents and threat tallents... probably along the lines of whatever cookie cutter spec there might be at this time. I've seen posts from people lower lvl than I am wondering how to boost thier DPS to end fights quicker because they can't dish it out as well as they take it. People have stated that you can take on 1+ content and champion mobs with PT and Mako... and I can handle the 1 vs. 1 fight well with here where hard to kill mobs are concerned.

My true question now is, when fighting multiple mobs why does it seem like i'm wearing tissue paper for armor and my tallents were given to me from a second rate technical school?

If I take on 2 strongs right now they litteraly shread me. Even if they are 2 or 3 lvls lower than i am. My gear is current lvl FP gear which is for lvl 33. I even keep Mako's armor up to date so that she has exceptional cunning for healing. I see that Shielding works like shield block in most other games, that force and tech are going to hit 100% of the time, and that every mob has at least some force/tech skills. Before I could take on 2 strongs and 1 elite, 2 elites +normals, etc. It was challenging but once i got past lvl 28 it seems like i'm just more fodder for them to practice on. Is this to be expected? Is there a scaling problem with lvl at the moment? Or am I just one unlucky individual?

Darkatma's Avatar

02.04.2012 , 12:42 PM | #2
Well the problem is not yours or makos gear. The problem lies with three simple facts.

Fact #1: Bounty hunter tanks rely very heavily on shield chance and absorb. More so than juggs because im pretty sure we have less damage mitigation cds. The main reason why we lack these cd's is because we were suppose to be ranged tanks. Meaning I belive anyways that when it comes to meler mobs we were designed to kite them for reduced damage. That however is not something that should be done most of the time considering how close together trash pulls are.

Fact #2: While i usually hate to admit lvl has anything to do with it, I am gonna comment on your low level. Since you dont have enough points for the tier just before heat blast, you are missing out on 10% shield chance. That is a huge difference in mitigation and a big factor as to why you go squish.

Fact #3: Leveling tank as a BH is an overall bad idea. I dont want to **** on ur dreams because i understand where ur commin from. You want a tank and u figured u better start getting used to it early. Thats fine but bh tanks do crap dps which means while ur lvling you'll be taking more hits and more damage. While u do mitigate some a strong dps could kill them fast enough with makos cc to end a fight at roughly the same hp.

So in closing here is my suggestion. Since pyrotech is not a very gear dependent spec, i would suggest respeccing to that while building up more tank gear. You will still be able to tank heroic quests by switching to ion gas. And you'll do decent dps. Once you have enough points for top tier abilities in you're trees you can go back to tank. You will notice a huge difference and it does kinda feel like godmode. I finished my last 9 lvls as tank and it was super easy to quest and never had much of a problem. I hope this was helpful for you

DwarfSpider's Avatar

02.04.2012 , 12:52 PM | #3
I appreciate the reply. I started out Pyrotech and loved the hell out of it. I respeced because some friends seem to need me to tank more than anything right now. If we ever get a dual spec that will be the second one for sure. That or they allow us to respec for free till we get something like that. Seems like punishment for playing 2 styles i tend to enjoy. But, that is a bit off topic for my origional post. Thanks again for the quick reply and for the honesty.

Darkatma's Avatar

02.04.2012 , 02:11 PM | #4
Yea I feel ur pain with the respecs. But they do give you 1 free respec a week and reset costs on respecs. Max respec is like 99k. The reason why there is no dual spec and may not be one for a while is because of what i like to call server participation. Since there is no multi-server grouping for any content. They want you to settle down on one particular role that you are mainly gonnq focus on. This ensures an easier time forming groups and since you are kind of locked into your spec without respeccing it allows for other people to fill up roles that you could have done yourself if there was a dual spec option. In short it gives more people a chance to find groups. Sorry if i mistype but im responding via iphone at work lol

Olvera's Avatar

02.04.2012 , 03:31 PM | #5
I leveled up as a tank no problem for most of the game. Only a few mobs ever gave me trouble, mostly due to said mobs using attacks that bypassed armor.

You can level up easily as a shield tank, especially with Mako healing. Just remember to use your CC's and cool downs before things really start heading south.

toferlee's Avatar

02.04.2012 , 07:32 PM | #6
i lvled all the way up as abounty hunter tank and i found it very easy ro do so it may take a bit longer to kill stuff but hardly ever died

toferlee's Avatar

02.04.2012 , 07:35 PM | #7
also i should add yes u do take more damage then it seems u should but mako can heal thru it and i have a freind who lvled juggy tank it saw the same thing where just seemd like he was taking to much damage but still not to much that he couldn't be healed thru it and as far as ranged tnaking goes thats bs u have to get up close to tank

pipda's Avatar

02.05.2012 , 03:08 AM | #8
One thing to watch for as a tank is the DOTS. Those bypass all your armor and a few mobs in the game will lay them on. You may have run into a pack that both strongs use a lot of DOTS on you. Your mitigation on them will be very low, 5-9% and will take you by surprise. Not saying that is the issue but something to watch for.

Another option is to let Mako take a mob and you take one. Let her agro first and peel off her. Take yours down then agro hers and take it down. Splits up the damage. If she has the shock thing micro manage it on the Add attacking her.

Menetou's Avatar

02.05.2012 , 03:29 AM | #9
DwarfSpider: I do not know what to post that would actually help you in a specific way (no hints, or ideas per se) but I can say that I played BH Powertech putting all my 31 first points into Shield Tech tree, and I never had a problem leveling through the game, mainly solo (with Mako). I imagine you are just at a bit of a problematic level, in which you do not have some Abilities / gear that you may need to get back into making the fights easier?
Not saying you should not respec' or whatever, just pointing out that you can level up to 50 as Shieldtech without any problem. I have not tried another way, so maybe it was a bit slower than if I had gone Pyro, but, in any case, it was not a really slow trek or anything (and I was happy to stick with it, mainly so that I really get to know all my abilities, and for all my key bindings to become second nature).
My advice, if you want to stick to Shieldtech, is just to hang in there for a couple levels, and things should pan out...
Powertech The Progenitor

greeblesnort's Avatar

02.05.2012 , 10:13 AM | #10
Keep in mind that some have stated a strange bug where your gear is no longer factored in to your stats. Check for those threads and try some of the suggested fixes?