Royox Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) I just don't find those nades FAIR on warzones. It's giving a Crew Skill an advantadge over the other ppl by adding 1 SKILL THAT STUNS, CUT CASTS AND STOPS PPL TRYING TO KITE. I don't understand why are they still used on WZ's. It's stupid. If a crewskill can have PVP advantadges over the others...make ALL Crew Skills have something to do with PvP. I'm armormech....give me +100% armor -.- pd: Sorry bad english :_ Edited November 17, 2012 by Royox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerilas Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 you can buy them on the GTN. there is no disadvantage. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royox Posted November 18, 2012 Author Share Posted November 18, 2012 you can buy them on the GTN. there is no disadvantage. /thread Lol no fking idea. Still is not fair the fact that you can use "external" weapons/skills to use on WZ's. It's a "pay to win PVP" xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRaika Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I don't agree with the OP but I do think the nades are over the top considering our crappy resolve system since the last change (I liked it before). I don't advocate removing grenades though just change resolve! You should be punished for using cc on a cc'd player. It promotes teamwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adellion Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 First people complained about biochem, now its cybertech... joy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoL-K-Noob Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Nades have a 3 minute cooldown, they are fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerilas Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Lol no fking idea. no fking idea? I pay for lots of them on the GTN, they are *********** cheap. I use them constantly in RWZs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royox Posted November 18, 2012 Author Share Posted November 18, 2012 no fking idea? I pay for lots of them on the GTN, they are *********** cheap. I use them constantly in RWZs I'm a PVE player. I do PVP on free time :_____ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourTwent Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Lol no fking idea. Still is not fair the fact that you can use "external" weapons/skills to use on WZ's. It's a "pay to win PVP" xD i think it's you who has no idea, i will be keeping my eye on this thread ./popcorn I'm a PVE player. I do PVP on free time :_____ ooo and it's already getting good Edited November 18, 2012 by FourTwent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kihi Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 FourTwent, is this seat next to you taken? I'll bring sodas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourTwent Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) FourTwent, is this seat next to you taken? I'll bring sodas... it sure isn't! come and watch the show Edited November 18, 2012 by FourTwent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatduece Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I dont recall others without cybertech crewskill are able to use them, but then again just subbed today from 1.2. I have alot of catching up to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 anyone can use them, but like biochem, only a cybertech can reuse them. I'm not sure why they nerfed biochem. there's no reason biochems shouldn't be ablt to reuse a special exotech stim just as they can rakata. it's not a nunbers advantage. it's a money saving thing. and every craft benefits the crafter on the gtn...and very little anywhere else. anyway, there is too much cc. grenades aren't in themselves a problem. but they are cc, and all the cc is a problem. my gawd, get rid of something...or re-fix resolve. I wanna know who on earth ever complained that there was too little CC in the game that would cause BW to tweak the resolve so that you get appreciably MORE cc. oye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurvv Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) you can buy them on the GTN. there is no disadvantage. /thread That argument didn't stop them from removing adrenals. I'm not against grenades, but removing adrenals was imo a stupid and unnecessary change. They could've just removed on-use relics and voila, no more stacking adrenals and relics. Grenades and adrenals both offer more chances for correct/incorrect tactical decision making - ways to separate good from bad and great from good. But since the majority of sub money comes from bad players, Bioware has to either cater to the lowest common denominator or lose money. Unfortunately this probably means grenades will be removed eventually too. Edited November 18, 2012 by Kurvv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meepbot Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) That argument didn't stop them from removing adrenals. I'm not against grenades, but removing adrenals was imo a stupid and unnecessary change. They could've just removed on-use relics and voila, no more stacking adrenals and relics. Grenades and adrenals both offer more chances for correct/incorrect tactical decision making - ways to separate good from bad and great from good. But since the majority of sub money comes from bad players, Bioware has to either cater to the lowest common denominator or lose money. Unfortunately this probably means grenades will be removed eventually too. When I asked why a tank VG once ran through a fire in huttball without losing very much health, about 15%, he said an adrenal + reactive shield would stop it.....last I checked cybertech grenades didnt let you live through fires Edited November 18, 2012 by Meepbot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrekxxx Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I guess, problem is resolve system, yeah it works but in reality and especially in ranked everyteam has bubble stun sorcerer and almost every player use those stun grenades and result is game is not smooth. Ppl are more stunned then they do something. Sometimes no fun for me. Its like streaming video from youtube with bad internet connection or lags versus to watch blueray disk Stuns are in the game to have some situational advantage. For example sorcerer healer stuns some1, run away and heals up while oppent is stunned, so when i started this game i couldnt understand why every class have 2 stuns. And now bubbles and grenades. So every class have 4 stuns in ranked. Solution for resolve? I would love they could just change one thing. When i am stunned i cannot receive damage. Thats all. Its all moght be about advantage. When stunned ppl couldnt receive damage during stun is active ppl wouldn't stun so much because it would be useless and damage dealing decrease. So they rly would use stun only for advantage to gain some time to cap turret or so. But stunned guy would stay there with full hp and they coudlnt kill him while is stunned. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSaberMaster Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 it sure isn't! come and watch the show I got the Milk Duds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightthunder Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 You can create grenades at lvl 100 Cybertech... you can farm Hammer station 24/7 for materials... Why does this post even exist? Try to adapt and quit whining or just quit in general... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacer Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 You can create grenades at lvl 100 Cybertech... you can farm Hammer station 24/7 for materials... Why does this post even exist? Try to adapt and quit whining or just quit in general... Just got my Sniper's Cybertech up to making Grenades... Hammer station you say. Thanks for the tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Lol no fking idea. Still is not fair the fact that you can use "external" weapons/skills to use on WZ's. It's a "pay to win PVP" xD Welcome to MMO's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpeningToEndgame Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Don't you HAVE to be Cybertech to use them though?! It says so on the item. Requires Cybertech 400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSaberMaster Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Don't you HAVE to be Cybertech to use them though?! It says so on the item. Requires Cybertech 400. Only for the purple ones. The rest can be used by anybody. I sell them in stacks of 10 all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunayson Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Lol no fking idea. Still is not fair the fact that you can use "external" weapons/skills to use on WZ's. It's a "pay to win PVP" xD It's also a grind to win, It's also a pay money to augment to win It's also pay money for stims to win No, but thats all okay. Your point is invalid, else you must also add the three above aforementioned points in your QQ post. That argument didn't stop them from removing adrenals. You're right. They removed adrenals because they wanted to raise the TTK and decrease burst damage. It wasn't a *only a few people have it, so it's unbalanced*, it's that *everyone had them, and they were op*. It's like giving everyone a one-hit KO move every three minutes; Sure, everyone has it, but it's still way unbalanced. Edited November 18, 2012 by Zunayson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I enjoy putting sludge grenades on ball carriers, or a cryo on a marauder. Such win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Don't you HAVE to be Cybertech to use them though?! It says so on the item. Requires Cybertech 400. only the reusable ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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