Sideblaze Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 It really seems that the Empire is the only side that's losing key figures. Are we ever going to off anyone like Satele or her trooper-friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkelefantos Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 It really seems that the Empire is the only side that's losing key figures. Are we ever going to off anyone like Satele or her trooper-friend? Well... not them, no. But pretty high ranking, at least. But since the title says no spoilers, I will not give spoilers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The Empire already killes an high-ranking Republic member. Even although it doesn't look much like that. Even one who is very, very well known - in hard contrast to some Darths from SWTOR, which no-one knew about since 2 years ago ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeters Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Other than this guy, you mean. And possibly this guy. And numerous important military officers and Jedi during various quests and class stories, possibly including all four of their highest ranking military leaders, who at the very least are in Imperial custody. I'd argue, of course, that the reason that so many significant imperial characters have bought it so far is as a consequence of them either making absurd power plays and/or leaving themselves vulnerable by personally leading whatever war effort they were involved in. Short of invading Tython - and good luck with that, by the way - Satele is firmly out of the Empire's grasp. Edited September 23, 2013 by Bleeters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediArchives Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I have a strong feeling Satele is going to meet her end before this is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Other than this guy, you mean. And possibly this guy. And numerous important military officers and Jedi during various quests and class stories, possibly including all four of their highest ranking military leaders, who at the very least are in Imperial custody. I'd argue, of course, that the reason that so many significant imperial characters have bought it so far is as a consequence of them either making absurd power plays and/or leaving themselves vulnerable by personally leading whatever war effort they were involved in. Short of invading Tython - and good luck with that, by the way - Satele is firmly out of the Empire's grasp. Second guy is as important as they come in the Republic. I have a strong feeling Satele is going to meet her end before this is over. I think not, there is no reason for her to die, she is essentially a non-combatant, she organises the good fight but stays out of it herself. The Empire is going to be focusing on countering the Jedi in the field, all of which can improvise without Satele, so no immediate benefit to killing her, and Sith are all about immediate changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Other than this guy, you mean. And possibly this guy. No, I actually meant (HEAVY SPOILER !!!) Revan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediArchives Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Second guy is as important as they come in the Republic. I think not, there is no reason for her to die, she is essentially a non-combatant, she organises the good fight but stays out of it herself. The Empire is going to be focusing on countering the Jedi in the field, all of which can improvise without Satele, so no immediate benefit to killing her, and Sith are all about immediate changes. The fact that she's the Grandmaster isn't enough reason to kill her...? And since when do Sith care about not killing someone that "stays out of the fight"? The Emperor was killed, Malgus was killed, just watch, the Empire will get the chance to kill Satele when they inevitably strike back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The fact that she's the Grandmaster isn't enough reason to kill her...? And since when do Sith care about not killing someone that "stays out of the fight"? The Emperor was killed, Malgus was killed, just watch, the Empire will get the chance to kill Satele when they inevitably strike back. She has high levels of protection and there is no immediate benefit to killing her. The Dark Council has little or no interest in avenging the Emperor, assuming he's actually dead, he was an absentee leader, and they miss him not. Darth Malgus is another matter, he was a good leader, but the other members of the Dark Council were his rivals, and so are probably involved in a scramble to claim as much of his power base as possible, diluting any response they might make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkelefantos Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 No, I actually meant (HEAVY SPOILER !!!) Revan He's not confirmed dead, they purposely made him vanish in an explosion so they could bring him back if they felt like it. Also, I like how the thread title says No spoilers and I'm the only one who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Since it wasn't easy for me to post without the spoiler warning - people were already giving out names, so I felt I had to do it as well - I did so with a spoiler wrapped around my answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWidowmaker Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The fact that she's the Grandmaster isn't enough reason to kill her...? And since when do Sith care about not killing someone that "stays out of the fight"? The Emperor was killed, Malgus was killed, just watch, the Empire will get the chance to kill Satele when they inevitably strike back. what you did there.... i see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 There are Jaric Kaedan(High Council top Jedi Master), Arfan Ramos(Green Jedi Leader) IA: Ardun Kothe(Former Jedi Master, top spy ) and his squad. BH: Kellian Jarro(Jedi Master), Dorian Janarus(Former chancellor), Jun Seros(Battle Master). SW: Normen Karr(Jedi Master and top Spy). Jedi Master Wyellett. the Generals Minst, Elaxis Frellka, Faraire, Durant However, since like level 45+ planets, the Empire keep lose important members and the Republic lose very few. The Sith Storyline changed to power struggle and IA was focusing on Star Cabal. Ironically only the BH is focusing on take Republic. Level 50 fps are Sith Die, and DK's novel killed a few more. Bah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentJacen Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Satele's going down!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMCA Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I think the power struggle in the Empire is about to come to an end, and the Jedi are gonna be on the run again pretty soon. As much as the Dark Council was hit, the Jedi Council was hit harder. The JK and JC story let you know upon playing them. I really doubt that the Republic, which was dysfunctional and falling apart after the First Great War, is gonna be able to hold up to an Empire that isn't too busy name-calling and politicking. The Sith Warrior and Inquisitor are in good position to support a leader who isn't stupid in his or her efforts to go on the offensive. The BH and Agent have pretty much nothing stopping them from contributing in a variety of ways toward an organized campaign. I personally would like to see a response similar to the Sacking of Coruscant from the Empire in the next expansion, where the Republic is pushed back into a corner. It should be tragic, though, where the victory feels dirty on Imp side and Pub characters feel awful despite their best efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedusz Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Satale Shan needs to die and Jace Malcom needs to die trying to avenge her.the developers need to start taking the Game of Thrones aproach and start killing of important characters.All except Marr,he needs to live.The new Twi'lek chancellor also needs to die.everyone except the player characters and Marr, must not be kept alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamfurdispray Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I personally think if they take the Game of Thrones approach, the story should be deep and complicated, more realistic rather than a simple slaughterhouse where most characters get killed. In my humble opinion, Game of Thrones or mature essence doesn't mean story just being all dark or full negative, the antagonist win on every turn it's more like grey & realistic, an unclear atmosphere, when the character died it's to serve a purpose for story sake, and by that mean not too often. Both faction show more good side and flaws of their own. In this case the Republic should be less heroical, show more of the corruption that hid inside, while the Empire shouldn't be too much of villainy especially when they starting to change to survive. Every character have their own motivation, reason, goals, and they had a fair share of good or bad deeds. That said the Game of Thrones theme mean no character are safe from the death flag. Unfortunately, one of our beloved characters Darth Marr is not invisible to it as well. Howver, judging by the direction of the story I think we're heading to Empire Strikes Back phase, and the Republic likely to lose something or someone significant that would bring both side into even ground, but BioWare can't destroy both side ingame for obvious reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMagus Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Star Wars is never going to be Game of Thrones. It's like trying to turn Duck Tales into True Blood.. they are different at their very core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetalJew Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Satale Shan needs to die and Jace Malcom needs to die trying to avenge her. the developers need to start taking the Game of Thrones aproach and start killing of important characters.All except Marr,he needs to live.The new Twi'lek chancellor also needs to die. everyone except the player characters and Marr, must not be kept alive. Darth Marr will never die. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damask_Rose Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I don't care who in the Republic dies as long as I can kill Governor Saresh someday. I'd like to be able to kill her with my Republic characters too. That way I can kill her 18 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacenHallis Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Star Wars is never going to be Game of Thrones. It's like trying to turn Duck Tales into True Blood.. they are different at their very core. Now in my head I'm seeing Donald Duck going around in his Donald Duck voice and just saying, "Sookeh. Sookeh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xakthul Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Hmmmm......Every time BW introduces a new patch, another major NPC dies. The Devs clearly read GoT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never_Hesitate Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hmmmm......Every time BW introduces a new patch, another major NPC dies. The Devs clearly read GoT. If they did, PCs would randomly die and not come back as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfNekko Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Satele is not gonna be dying any time soon, since Tython is a very well defended planet and barring a full scale invasion breaking the line is not going to be easy. Attacking the senate will also be hard since the Republic won't be dumb enough to let their guard down for another sacking that's for sure. The Emperor only fell because he completely isolated himself from the rest of Kaas City and the Dark Council, and backdoors and stealth were used to sneak into his temple and end him. Jace Malcom also isn't going to die because he is raw ****** molded into human form that can curb stomp anyone fool enough to challenge him, he even gave Malgus a hard time. The way the storylines go, as the war progresses the Sith Empire becomes more unstable while the Republic becomes more stable. Constant backstabbings and power grabs are making the empire lose key figures left and right, while the Republic is purging multiple numbers of corruption, and replacing them with genuine altruists (say what you will about Saresh, but she does whatever it takes to protect the republic, she may be aggressive, but she gets the job done). And planets who's loyalties were in question have changed their tune and become stalwart defenders of the republic. Unless something happens to turn this war on its head, there will be a lot more sith deaths then republic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamfurdispray Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Satele is not gonna be dying any time soon, since Tython is a very well defended planet and barring a full scale invasion breaking the line is not going to be easy. Attacking the senate will also be hard since the Republic won't be dumb enough to let their guard down for another sacking that's for sure. The Emperor only fell because he completely isolated himself from the rest of Kaas City and the Dark Council, and backdoors and stealth were used to sneak into his temple and end him. Jace Malcom also isn't going to die because he is raw ****** molded into human form that can curb stomp anyone fool enough to challenge him, he even gave Malgus a hard time. The way the storylines go, as the war progresses the Sith Empire becomes more unstable while the Republic becomes more stable. Constant backstabbings and power grabs are making the empire lose key figures left and right, while the Republic is purging multiple numbers of corruption, and replacing them with genuine altruists (say what you will about Saresh, but she does whatever it takes to protect the republic, she may be aggressive, but she gets the job done). And planets who's loyalties were in question have changed their tune and become stalwart defenders of the republic. Unless something happens to turn this war on its head, there will be a lot more sith deaths then republic Not if she put herself in the front line and risk her own life. You can see one example that even Tython are not completly safe or out of the enemy reach the example are on Jedi's Knight story, and were it not for Hero of Tython. I think Darth Angral might complete his suicide vengeful mission, and succeed to destroy the planet with Desolator superweapon. I think you forgot three things. First despite all his skills as remarkable soldier. You can see it on Hope trailer, Darth Malgus defeat Jace easily with that force lighting & force push, that charge near the end did it only because Jace caught Malgus off guard while he was busy with Satele. There are no real evidence that Jace could defeat Malgus soley, but he got guts I'll give him that. Second, you forgot that the state of war are heading far above than Corellia & Illum now, the Empire is coming around and has learned from its past mistake. With Darth Marr in charge of the defence, even there are infighting and power play inside it's short lived and swiftly eliminated, not to mention that Empire begin to see that prejudice against alien species hold them back, and start to recruit more alien into Imperial military ranks. Lastly, even in the time of war a decisively leader like Saresh may fit, but the decisive action serve no purpose without long terms strategy. If she has too much of the aggression, pushing deep into Imperial space and counting Empire to weakened itself from the infighting. While in fact that aggression also make her bold but reckless. Again there are no strong evidence that suggests every planets that's want to be independence, beside the Rift Alliance are now united under Republic's banner and every corruption inside the Republic have been cleanse. Edited October 19, 2013 by shamfurdispray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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