badwin Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 How have the graphics improved since the last beta weekend? I know they had some bad textures in place and was wondering how much the game has changed since last beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanStarr Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I am not playing live yet; however, I can't imagine the graphics would be drastically different from the beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tintagel Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Personally, I haven't notice much difference tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlamorel Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 The screenshots I've seen look phenomenal. Are you comparing the graphics to a specific game? I only ask because it may be a difference in what we are comparing SWTOR's graphics to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakthefriendly Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 The screenshots I've seen look phenomenal. Are you comparing the graphics to a specific game? I only ask because it may be a difference in what we are comparing SWTOR's graphics to. It's a pretty game, but no Skyrim. However, that is the price for a MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlamorel Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 It's a pretty game, but no Skyrim. However, that is the price for a MMO. Aye! I am not the gaming hardware expert, but I believe console games in general have technological advantages that allow better graphics than a PC, no? I guess in my mind I've always separated MMO graphics from console graphics, so from an MMO mindset, I really enjoy the screenshots I've seen so far. Can't wait to see for myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorBarber Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Is it true that there is still no in-game method for enabling Anti-Aliasing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quira Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 No AA at this time. But game still looks good and runs very smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recktion Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 It's a pretty game, but no Skyrim. However, that is the price for a MMO. I wouldn't exactly call Skyrim pretty looking, It could of looked much better. Aye! I am not the gaming hardware expert, but I believe console games in general have technological advantages that allow better graphics than a PC, no? I guess in my mind I've always separated MMO graphics from console graphics, so from an MMO mindset, I really enjoy the screenshots I've seen so far. Can't wait to see for myself! Hell no. Consoles are far inferior to PC hardware right now. The game doesn't look amazing because they want as many people playing it as possible so the graphics are weak in orer to maximize profits. They also have to keep in mind that there could be parts where there is 100+ people in spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acharial Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 The most important is that it gives you the 'Star Wars' feeling and I belive Bioware did a terrific job with that, looks fantastic! In all honesty if you compare the animations and everything to other games It's not so bad. I find it the best looking mmo so far. The graphics are not realistic like AoC and other games but I still findit better looking for an mmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniWes Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) As far as I can tell the textures are similar to the beta weekends, however they have improved the lighting and shadows, so everything looks a bit better (or maybe that's simply because the high shadows are actually high now) I've never been and still am not a fan of the stylized realism approach, however I have to admit that overall this game looks and runs great. Would like to have AA support in the game itself though. Edited December 14, 2011 by DaniWes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlamorel Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I wouldn't exactly call Skyrim pretty looking, It could of looked much better. Hell no. Consoles are far inferior to PC hardware right now. The game doesn't look amazing because they want as many people playing it as possible so the graphics are weak in orer to maximize profits. They also have to keep in mind that there could be parts where there is 100+ people in spots. Isn't there the issue, though, that with a console you aren't also having to see things that have to be transmitted via internet (and if they are being transmitted via ethernet like in online shooters, the graphics aren't as good as cutscenes on solo-player console games). Also, that the information is being read off of a disc rather than being loaded onto your computer as you move throughout the environment. Again, not an expert, just seems intuitively that these factors would cater to consoles having an easier time producing better graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorBarber Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Really hope in-game AA support gets patched in soon. That's just something PC gamers have come to expect. It's not even a new thing for Bioware's games. It makes a big difference. Seems weird that we are forced to tweak files out of game to enable it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acharial Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Really hope in-game AA support gets patched in soon. That's just something PC gamers have come to expect. It's not even a new thing for Bioware's games. It makes a big difference. Seems weird that we are forced to tweak files out of game to enable it. You can force it through CCC and Nvidias control panel. It's very easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorBarber Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) You can force it through CCC and Nvidias control panel. It's very easy. Aware of that, but I shouldn't have to. I know it's nitpicking, but that stuff should really just be an in-game toggle. Edited December 14, 2011 by DoctorBarber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veilwolf Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Isn't there the issue, though, that with a console you aren't also having to see things that have to be transmitted via internet (and if they are being transmitted via ethernet like in online shooters, the graphics aren't as good as cutscenes on solo-player console games). Also, that the information is being read off of a disc rather than being loaded onto your computer as you move throughout the environment. Again, not an expert, just seems intuitively that these factors would cater to consoles having an easier time producing better graphics. Graphics of PC vs Console, PC always wins (assuming you have a decent, modern rig and not something that's 8 years old. I have a 360 and PS3, and love both systems. My PC is a Crossfire set-up though, so if I buy a game that's graphic intensive (IE Skyrim) I get it on the PC because it looks just that much better...and I'm a fan of the eye candy the devs work so hard on. The reason for TOR's less then amazing graphics (I think it's a great looking game though) is that it's an MMO. Every MMO produced always has graphics below the curve, I'd believe it's to cater to the masses that have older rigs...though that's just my guess, you'd have to ask a dev to find out why i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlamorel Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 The reason for TOR's less then amazing graphics (I think it's a great looking game though) is that it's an MMO. This is more or less what I was trying to say... I just tend to be long-winded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevesNET Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Aye! I am not the gaming hardware expert, but I believe console games in general have technological advantages that allow better graphics than a PC, no? I guess in my mind I've always separated MMO graphics from console graphics, so from an MMO mindset, I really enjoy the screenshots I've seen so far. Can't wait to see for myself! Really? Is this for real? LOL You should see a DX11 map of BF3 on my computer, then you'll never fire up your console, ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humpacactus Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Aware of that, but I shouldn't have to. I know it's nitpicking, but that stuff should really just be an in-game toggle. Gotta agree its a bit surprising overall. Hopefully they finish fixing it and add it back in soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DariuszPol Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Aye! I am not the gaming hardware expert, but I believe console games in general have technological advantages that allow better graphics than a PC, no? I guess in my mind I've always separated MMO graphics from console graphics, so from an MMO mindset, I really enjoy the screenshots I've seen so far. Can't wait to see for myself! That's quite oposite mate. Just graphic card alone today is 10x greater than anything console has to offer. We have much more RAM, better processors etc. Only at launch consoles were supperior compare to common PC but they cost more than common PC and price was still lower that it should be (PS3 were sold below cost of production because Sony [and MS too] take %% from every game sold). Graphic didn't improve too mutch but still it's better than in beta I think. I would need to play Jedi again to see locations so I can make sure. Still for 2011 graphic is ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Vi Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Aye! I am not the gaming hardware expert, but I believe console games in general have technological advantages that allow better graphics than a PC, no? Accualy no mate, even if consoles have better graphics than the regular destop/laptop arround, the fact is, if you are willing to pay 2k+ por a good desktop you will see that they are far ahead from any console arround, just to give you one idea, just my graphic card costed me arround 500€ when i bought it... and that, is at least the price of the most expensive console in the market... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempuro Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 You can force it through CCC and Nvidias control panel. It's very easy. could you indicate where this option is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky_walkerPL Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Again, not an expert, just seems intuitively that these factors would cater to consoles having an easier time producing better graphics. No, it's not like that. Consoles at the time of release (both: PS3, Xbox360 or even Wii) were WORSE than PCs back in the day. Now we are few years ahead and PCs jumped even further ahead - if you look at the computing power of graphics systems a PC bought last year is roughly 10 times better than Console. Problem is that: On consoles there's only one set of hardware and drivers. On a PC there's endless amount of combinations. You can hardly push PC to a maximum cause that would essentially limit you to running game only on very specific sets of hardware (like Intel i7 CPU with DX11 nVidia graphics card - tech demos usually run on setups like that). So you'll never see how would game look with 10 times the console processing power. Usually it's closer to 3-4 times. But even than there's one big factor to consider - developers treat PC market like a crap. Those who don't get rewarded with money, but still major companies like EA or Ubisoft still live in a world where number of games sold on consoles and profits generated by them is much higher than it's on a PC. Therefore very very very few games actually push PCs to the maximum and very very few games are optimality well enough to run properly on a PC. Death of Crysis 2 or Arkham City can be blamed for that even though eventually these games got improved to a reasonable level. And there's one more factor: Console games run on TVs in 1280x720 without anti-aliasing capped to 30 FPS. Constant resolution and FPS count allows you to perform some.... let's call it: tricks, that make game look better than it actually do if you'd start making print-screens and compare them with PCs. Also having game run on a TV with surround sound gives much better end-user impression than playing on 19'' computer screen with headset Even if you can plug-in PC to a TV and get real 1080p with AA, 7.1 sound and far more details on the screen (higher res textures, higher polygon models, tessellation, and so on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davorn Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I have not noticed a difference in graphics. However they seem smoother. I seem to have a much higher frame rate right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterBurst Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Most of my guild agrees that they are a bit smoother and slightly better than in beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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