DarthBama Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I have been having a heck of a time REing greens today. I have crafted over 100 items today and have only discovered 1 recipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBama Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Day 2 of this. I'm now up to over 300 items (based on my Augment material count). This HAS to be bugged. I RE a lot (particularily on my Cybertech and Artifice), and you can get a good feel for what a 20% chance looks like. Synthweaving hasn't even been in the same ballpark. It feels a lot more like 10% rather than the tool tip 20%. I really would like to see the rolls like was mentioned in another thread, at least then we would know the chances are working as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telanis Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It's not a fixed 20% per player, it's 20% overall. Seeing stats for yourself wouldn't help because for every time you have a streak that "shows" a 10% chance, someone else has a streak that "shows" a 30% chance. Purely luck-based systems are bad from a user perspective but that doesn't mean they're broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlixMV Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It's not a fixed 20% per player, it's 20% overall. Seeing stats for yourself wouldn't help because for every time you have a streak that "shows" a 10% chance, someone else has a streak that "shows" a 30% chance. Purely luck-based systems are bad from a user perspective but that doesn't mean they're broken. ^^^^ This. Basically imagine that every time you RE something, it's rolling a random number 1-5. You have to get a '1' for it to RE. The probability of RE'ing 20 things and not learning a schematic is pretty small, but it doesn't change the fact that probability each time you RE of being 1-in-5 chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBama Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 I fully understand the concept of statistics. One of the biggest problems I have with he system is it is nearly impossible to know for sure if Bioware screwed something up. That is why I would like to see the rolls. If you roll a 20 and you don't get a schematic, then obviously something is broken. On my Cybertech I can go from green to blue with the production from 3 companions every time. I was consistently having to produce 3 runs on 4 companions to get one blue recipe. This happened on 6 different pieces of clothing. If their programming is correct, the probability of this happening should be unbelievably low. I really believe it is set to 10% for greens, the blues to purple felt about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainot-keel Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 None of us have actual meaningful data to contest (or not ) that 20% tooltip, but luck (bad and good) happens. Just happened to me these last couple of days with an earpiece, trying to get the Expert prefix. I crafted 10 blues and I got 3 purples recipes (at 10% chance), not the one I wanted. Another 10 blues, 1 more purple but not Expert. Forty more tries and still haven't gotten it. Now I need to farm more green mats to keep trying. It would be nice to have a crafting log, just like there is a combat log, with all the results from REs and missions, etc. That way we could a better view of what is really happening. Obviously one tends to remember the extreme cases of annoyance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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