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Interesting skill of Obi Wan in the RotS novel


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I recently read the novel of RotS again and found some interesting stuff.

 

During his duel against Anakin, Obi Wan as able to use the Force to reverse the polarity of the electrodrivers in Anakin's mechanical hand. Since he could do it against Anakin, then shouldn't he use this skill against Vader later? Vader was more machine than man, if Obi Wan could affect the mechanical device in Vader's suit, he could easily defeat Vader.

 

Just like the apprentice SI defeated Darth Skotia after messed up with his suit.

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The book also says he can only do it once before the opponent learns from the mistake and prepares for it.

It said one that wouldn't work twice, but it was against EP III Anakin, who only has a machine hand. What could Vader do? Those devices on his body aren't like his hand, he could not control most of them.

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It said one that wouldn't work twice, but it was against EP III Anakin, who only has a machine hand. What could Vader do? Those devices on his body aren't like his hand, he could not control most of them.

That doesn't mean Obi-Wan could control them, either.

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It said one that wouldn't work twice, but it was against EP III Anakin, who only has a machine hand. What could Vader do? Those devices on his body aren't like his hand, he could not control most of them.

 

He used it (and explained its one-time-only catch) in his fight with Grievous first, who's even more robotic then Vader.

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Obi-Wan didn't confront Vader with victory or even survival in mind, that's why. He was delaying Vader and all the troops that stopped to watch the show. And at the end when he's certain Luke can get out with the plans he lets Vader strike the killing blow. Watch the fight again if you don't remember - Obi-Wan raises his saber in a front-of-face salute so Vader gets to make a free swing at him.
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Obi-Wan didn't confront Vader with victory or even survival in mind, that's why. He was delaying Vader and all the troops that stopped to watch the show. And at the end when he's certain Luke can get out with the plans he lets Vader strike the killing blow. Watch the fight again if you don't remember - Obi-Wan raises his saber in a front-of-face salute so Vader gets to make a free swing at him.

 

This.

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He used it (and explained its one-time-only catch) in his fight with Grievous first, who's even more robotic then Vader.

 

Yes, and that line was mentioned in the fight against Anakin, so it's clear, it would only work on Anakin once since he only has a mechanical hand.

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Why? Since it worked on the hand, how come it would not work on all those devices?

Not what I was saying. We don't know it would have worked against the rest of Vader's suit because we don't know if the rest of Vader's suit relied on similar stuff. So although it could have worked, we can't count it for sure as a valid weapon in Obi-Wan's arsenal, because it could also not have worked.

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Yes, and that line was mentioned in the fight against Anakin, so it's clear, it would only work on Anakin once since he only has a mechanical hand.

 

 

No, it only works once for some ridiculous reasoning that the opponent learns to expect it, in whatever form it comes whether its making the palm open or swinging a leg backwards. Because Fantasy, don't worry about it or it won't make sense.

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Obi-Wan didn't confront Vader with victory or even survival in mind, that's why. He was delaying Vader and all the troops that stopped to watch the show. And at the end when he's certain Luke can get out with the plans he lets Vader strike the killing blow. Watch the fight again if you don't remember - Obi-Wan raises his saber in a front-of-face salute so Vader gets to make a free swing at him.

 

He clearly only did that because he knew Luke wouldn't leave him behind. So the only way to make Luke get away in time was to get himself killed, just like Rogue Leader did during the Death Star attack. Would Luke not have shown up at the time he did, things might have turned out differently.

The question remains, if Obi-Wan had that skill and could have killed Vader, why didn't he kill him and then let the Stormtroopers shoot him down afterwards? I'm sure the person who just killed Darth Vader would have been the focus for everyone in sight.

After all, killing Vader and the Emperor seems to have been the most important thing to him and Yoda for 20 year.

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He clearly only did that because he knew Luke wouldn't leave him behind. So the only way to make Luke get away in time was to get himself killed, just like Rogue Leader did during the Death Star attack. Would Luke not have shown up at the time he did, things might have turned out differently.

The question remains, if Obi-Wan had that skill and could have killed Vader, why didn't he kill him and then let the Stormtroopers shoot him down afterwards? I'm sure the person who just killed Darth Vader would have been the focus for everyone in sight.

After all, killing Vader and the Emperor seems to have been the most important thing to him and Yoda for 20 year.

 

He couldn't have killed Vader.

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He clearly only did that because he knew Luke wouldn't leave him behind.

 

So he did it in order to give Luke some motivation too, maybe? I can't really fathom why perfectly healthy people would throw their lives away in suicide bombings or similar acts, but some people do. And it makes sense to them. Obi-Wan did the line about "becoming stronger than Vader could ever imagine" before letting the killing blow through, maybe he was looking for his death to become one with the Force all along? He knew he's be able to advise Luke later.

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No, it only works once for some ridiculous reasoning that the opponent learns to expect it, in whatever form it comes whether its making the palm open or swinging a leg backwards. Because Fantasy, don't worry about it or it won't make sense.

 

Well it's easy to figure out.

 

To EP III Anakin, all it could do it let his hand release the lightsaber, once he's aware of it, he would use his other hand, or both hand, or switch quickly when Obi Wan use this skill.

 

But Vader could not do such thing since he's mostly machine.

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With this skill he could have easily done so.

 

And he could teach this skill to Luke since it would be very efficient against Vader.

 

No he really couldn't have, he was getting weak...besides its not like Vader wouldn't be able to resist it anyway.

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How would Vader resist it? He could not control most of the devices in his body, even couldn't control his breath.

 

His strength in The Force? Where does it say he couldn't control the devices on his body? Also not controlling his breathing?...Did you forget his 1st duel with Luke on Bespin? Besides as stated, it was already used against him...so why would it work later on if he knows about it? It doesn't really change anything, just because he is in a suit if he knows about it he can resist it.

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His strength in The Force? Where does it say he couldn't control the devices on his body? Also not controlling his breathing?...Did you forget his 1st duel with Luke on Bespin? Besides as stated, it was already used against him...so why would it work later on if he knows about it? It doesn't really change anything, just because he is in a suit if he knows about it he can resist it.

 

No, in RotS novel it was made clear he could not even stop his own breath, and he needs to go to his mediation chamber to keep those devices all good. He also could not use Force Lightning because it would damage those devices.

 

It's made clear Vader's suit is not kept by Force, but mechanical devices.

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No, in RotS novel it was made clear he could not even stop his own breath, and he needs to go to his mediation chamber to keep those devices all good. He also could not use Force Lightning because it would damage those devices.

 

It's made clear Vader's suit is not kept by Force, but mechanical devices.

 

Is this true ? what is true canon then? i heard diferent thats why im asking.

I heard that his suit could actualy resist lightning at least some extend of it. And that his suit was a creation of sith alchemy so i recon the force being envolved.

But im guessing The Force unleashed series is overal silly anyway.

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I heard that his suit could actualy resist lightning at least some extend of it.

 

IIRC not his suit but Vader himself - he's got a Force talent that lets him try to absorb energy directed at him. Think they discussed it briefly in "I, Jedi" when going through different talents and lack thereof.

 

You see an example in Empire Strikes Back, Vader just raises his hand and absorbs a couple blaster shots before ripping the blaster out of Solo's hand.

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