I'm referring to playable characters, jedi knight sith warrior ect, I think it would be the sith inquisitor or the jedi consular but I don't know which.

So who do you think is the most powerful in-game character lore-wise?

most influential? Warrior.

most powerful? Warrior.

why?

most influential? Warrior.

most powerful? Warrior.

 

why?

 

Being the Emperor's Wrath is no easy task. You have to have some serious qualifications if you are basically the Empire's war leader. Also, being second only to the Emperor (also, in turn, the Emperor's Voice), there's definitely a lot of respect and influence one gains from this position

I would probably disagree with both of these, but definitely disagree with the "most influential."

As for my prediction, I would think

Most political power/Influential (in their current state, not including what they have done in the past) :

1. Sith Inquisitor

2. Jedi Conselor

3. Sith Warrior

4. Imperial Agent

5. Jedi Knight

6. Smuggler

7. Trooper

8. Bounty Hunter.

Most battle prowess/physical power:

1. Sith Warrior

2. Jedi Knight

3. Sith Inquisitor

4. Jedi Conselor

5. Imperial Agent

6-7. Bounty Hunter/Trooper (Think these are way too even to split)

8. Smuggler

My opinions.

I have multiple characters of every class and advanced class, so I'm not *too* biased.

Jedi Knight imo.

The JK defeats the Emperor, who is probably one of the top 5 most powerful figures in the entire history of the SW universe. Maybe even top 3.

Inquisitor and Warrior are so hard to compare...most diplomatic answer would be Warrior better with lightsaber (even over assassin) and Inquisitor better with force powers. Going by cut scenes Inquisitor ending showing beats anything warrior has done, but that is unfair to warrior as he did not have to deal with someone like Darth Thanaton. Closest to it would be resisting freshly freed Dread Masters.

Power wise I have already repeated many times people seem to overvalue Emperor Wrath status. It does not give you power over Dark Council as Darth Marr bluntly tells you at the end of Act III. On other hand Dark Council is divided to spheres so while as whole Dark Council has much more power than Wrath, piece of it is much closer. Powerbase wise Inquisitor has fleet which beats anything Warrior has.

Jedi Knight imo.

The JK defeats the Emperor, who is probably one of the top 5 most powerful figures in the entire history of the SW universe. Maybe even top 3.

my list:

most influential:

-sith inquisitor

-sith warrior

-jedi consular

-jedi knight

fisically stronger:

-warrior

-knight

-inquisitor/consular

why?the warrior is a sith,he relies more than the jedi knight of fisical strength and brutality,even if the knight is strongh you can surely agree that he is less dependant on strength and brutality.

stronger in the force:

-consular

-inquisitor

-warrior/knight

the consular is the strongest in the force,maybe even of the era,the inquisitor needs ghosts to become stronger than tanathon,but he is still naturally extremely powerful.

biggest power base:

-inquisitor (whole fleets and armies)

-consular (an entire army)

-warrior/knight (themselves,booooo)

Can't make the fairest of judgments, as I've got 10 Imperials and only 2 'Pubs (JK & JC)

Playing through all Imperial classes 2 times+, I can pretty safely judge them:

Most influential: Sith Inquisitor, by far.

Most powerful: Sith Warrior.

Both JK and JC don't match up. The Jedi Knight is just annoying, and so badly written. Almost like a deus-ex-machina for the Republic. They are only class that actually does anything, and what they do is just... meh. Almost like Luke post-films, they're just a tool for lazy writing on Republic side. They couldn't think of a good way to make the Republic win, so they just bring in the Knight to 'win' in every sense.

Most powerful: Sith Warrior.

Emperor's Wrath is basically all you need to say. Handpicked by the Emperor and his Hand personally, by far the most deadly Sith in the Empire, if not galaxy. Strongest potential in the Force, master of lightsaber techniques, and just impossible to kill, and this is without any sort of supernatural power or ritual (looking at you, Scourge, and especially you, Inquisitor.. relying on ghosts to get into the Dark Council)

I'd point out that the only reason the Emperor is as powerful as he is or has his position is because of supernatural power and rituals However he obtained that power, the fact remains that the Inquisitor took his position on the Dark Council via his own power, whereas the Wrath was effectively appointed by the Emperor.

And given that Act 3 pretty much serves as warning that bad things happen if you falsely invoke the Emperor's name to advance your agenda, that Wrath can't even really make use of his power without direction from the Emperor or the Hand. Whereas the Inquisitor can do pretty much do whatever the hell he wants.

Both JK and JC don't match up. The Jedi Knight is just annoying, and so badly written. Almost like a deus-ex-machina for the Republic. They are only class that actually does anything, and what they do is just... meh. Almost like Luke post-films, they're just a tool for lazy writing on Republic side. They couldn't think of a good way to make the Republic win, so they just bring in the Knight to 'win' in every sense.

I agree heartily about the JK. I can't even really get into the story just because they lay it on so fast and so thick. I just kind of rolled my eyes when after my first class mission I had the Grand Master of the Order and the entire Jedi Council tripping over themselves to tell me how awesome I was.

Must also register my bafflement at the Jedi Knight. You can piss off a Sith Lord, botch Uphrades, spark off yet another galactic war, not to mention another operation that basically was screwed from the get go because of you. Council still pats you on the back and calls you pretty.

To reiterate: what are they even smoking, is it against the Code, can I have some. Memo to Satele and everyone - knock off that whole snicker behind the back Hero title thing or I will stop this boat and let the Sith win. Not even kidding! Kind of kidding. Working on the sense of humor thing. Hearts and yays, from the Knight.

Most powerful? Ehhhh, in terms of story Sith Inquisitor I guess. Part of the ruling body of the Empire plus Force Walk plus lightning face melt plus battle fleet. Jedi Counselor has whole armies of various species, but Counselor powers, while powerful, lend towards the sacrificing for others and less so much soul munching and insta-death and taxation.

Least powerful is the smuggler. Do they even smuggle? Is their job description a misnomer and there should really be an 'n' there instead of an 'm'? They get a lot of contacts in the underworld I guess, but all the drug dealers and pimps and ladies of the night seem kinda outclassed compared to what the other main characters can bring.

These are all opinions, folks. Not facts. I also disagree with the above poster's opinion on the Jedi Knight story. You don't need twists for a good story, just a good foundation. The Jedi Knight's story was meant to be the "Captain America" of the Republic. Simply from the beginning (with the flesh raiders), the events hint that you have the "facing the impossible, and coming back a hero" potential. Add some romance (Kira), add sidekicks (T7, Doc, Rusk), and add an unlikely powerful ally (Scourge), and you have a box office action film.

Back to the original thread. Who's the most powerful character ingame?

1.) Sith Inquisitor (with ghosts)

2.) Jedi Knight / Sith Warrior (the only difference between these two is their positions at the end of Act 3 (Emperor's Wrath, second to only the Emperor vs.another Jedi Master. Unfortunately, most of the quest NPC's prove that Jedi Master doesn't mean that they're a force to be reckoned with. Most are useless and request your help for simple things. So you have to look at the Knight's achievements instead of his rank.)

3.) Sith Inquisitor (without ghosts)

Now for the NPC's?

I actually do like the Jedi Knight in the game, and yeah there's something refreshingly simple and back to the basics and (depending how you play the class story) idealistic about the Knight. But the Knight also kinda never actually succeeds at whatever they set out to do. Just saying.

I dunno, I think a lotta people are too quick to dismiss the JK story as "cliche" while missing thats kinda the point. as a guildy of mine once said "it's not cliche it's classic" the JK story is basicly the classic star wars story. whomever compared the JK to Luke Skywalker... honestly... thats kind of the point. the JK is the Luke/Anakin/Revan of his day. the best damned force the Jedi have. when the going gets tough, the Jedi call the Hero of Tython.

My first character was the Jedi Knight (M). I quickly got bored and rolled a Smuggler (F), then an Inquisitor (F), then a Bounty Hunter (M)... then I went back to my Knight to get the chapter 2 buff unlock.

After playing three of the other story lines I found the Knight a refreshing return to the classic Star Wars style. For me, going with the JK first was a mistake. I initially needed something that was a change-up from SW convention. After three times around with less conventional plots (I love playing Imperial simply because it's the first time I've seen the Sith portrayed sympathetically in a game), the JK has been fantastic.

1) Jedi Knight because he defeats Emperor and the Emperor says he harnesses immense power. [that he... turns into lightsaber skillz? dumb but whatever]

2) Sith Inquisitor because he cannot be killed unless stripped of his ghosts first - ghosts that only his crew + Zash really knows about, and only Zash was aware of what was required to render him mortal again - even a Sith Sorcery buff like Thanaton didn't know.

3) Sith Warrior because the story goes over and over about how ****** he is.

4) Jedi Consular, He is not the chosen one, mostly a generic if heroic jedi, but a powerful one regardless.

Maybe I misunderstood it, but didn't the Imperial Agent walk away with every bit of dirt/the tricks/contacts/influence of the Star Cabal in the Black Codex? The Star Cabal thats been manipulating the galaxy for centuries?

A fair point, but I really don't see what my sniper is going to do with it. 'specially seeing as Intelligence was disbanded and not coming back. My agent reminds me of Littlefinger, in Game of Thrones. Intelligence and knowledge is all well and good, and can certainly change things in your favour when things are in your favour, but when **** hits the fan, and you end up with a lightsaber in your throat, it can't really help you then.

I dunno, I think a lotta people are too quick to dismiss the JK story as "cliche" while missing thats kinda the point. as a guildy of mine once said "it's not cliche it's classic" the JK story is basicly the classic star wars story. whomever compared the JK to Luke Skywalker... honestly... thats kind of the point. the JK is the Luke/Anakin/Revan of his day. the best damned force the Jedi have. when the going gets tough, the Jedi call the Hero of Tython.

I'm not saying it's cliche (refreshing is the opposite of cliche, the Jedi Knight story is a reconstruction of classic hero stories) or that it's not cool in it's own way to be the golden boy/girl of the Jedi Order.

Instead I'm saying that if you think about it, while the Knight has accomplished a lot, they tend to fail at their assigned missions.

How is the Knight not considered a major screw up in the story? Or is that what's going on, does the Council keep giving the Knight these hard missions hoping that they'll get their act together and redeem all their past failures? And if so, what's going to happen when they find out the Sith Emperor is still out there?

lol, It wasn't his voice, it was the Emperor himself. When the Emperor's voss voice was killed he didn't bat an eyelash. When the Knight kills his final opponent, he is suddenly weakened to the point Marr states he lives but is pretty much useless.

Go read up the Hall Hood [lead writer] interview.

No, the dudes in the SW story weren't lying [at the time], Bioware just retroactively changed the continuity to make it simpler.

Go read up the Hall Hood [lead writer] interview.

 

No, the dudes in the SW story weren't lying [at the time], Bioware just retroactively changed the continuity to make it simpler.

I think until we get it cleared up in game itself, it's up in the air. I also think that there are already a number of threads about this very subject.

But even if you don't count the very last part of the character story, there are a lot of failures that the Knight really should realistically catch more flak over than they do.

So I dunno. They're as strong as the other player characters, and whatever the act 3 boss IS for the Knight, they're still hecka strong, but I'm really not sure about ranking the Knight up that high in the list of power and influence.

I'm not saying it's cliche (refreshing is the opposite of cliche, the Jedi Knight story is a reconstruction of classic hero stories) or that it's not cool in it's own way to be the golden boy/girl of the Jedi Order.

 

Instead I'm saying that if you think about it, while the Knight has accomplished a lot, they tend to fail at their assigned missions.

 

 

Their master is killed. They stop Angral and save Tython, but they don't prevent Angral from using superweapons and killing a lot of people. They help Tol Braga locate a possible hiding place for the Emperor, but then lose their strike team and briefly their mind when the operation falls apart. The Knight regroups and recovers some of the lost parts of that team, and tries to defeat the Emperor, but only succeeds in defeating the Emperor's Voice

 

 

How is the Knight not considered a major screw up in the story? Or is that what's going on, does the Council keep giving the Knight these hard missions hoping that they'll get their act together and redeem all their past failures? And if so, what's going to happen when they find out the Sith Emperor is still out there?

Their master is killed. They stop Angral and save Tython, but they don't prevent Angral from using superweapons and killing a lot of people. They help Tol Braga locate a possible hiding place for the Emperor, but then lose their strike team and briefly their mind when the operation falls apart. The Knight regroups and recovers some of the lost parts of that team, and tries to defeat the Emperor, but only succeeds in defeating the Emperor's Voice

How is the Knight not considered a major screw up in the story? Or is that what's going on, does the Council keep giving the Knight these hard missions hoping that they'll get their act together and redeem all their past failures? And if so, what's going to happen when they find out the Sith Emperor is still out there?

You are looking at it from the wrong perspective.

you did as good as anyone could expect.

Ah, then everyone just has REALLY LOW standards for the Knight. Maybe between lightsaber training they were stuck on kitchen staff duty and kept accidentally burning everyone's food. Maybe also that's why the Knight didn't really have a master until one of them kind of stumbled into the role.

Pretty sure heads would roll, starting with yours.

The other stuff is just icing on the fail cake. That debacle BAKED the cake with a giant scary laser over a few hours time.

1) Sith Warrior

2) Sith Inquisitor

3) Jedi knight

4) Jedi counselor