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shii-cho mastery - why not shien mastery?

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shii-cho mastery - why not shien mastery?

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Carousel_t
11.22.2012 , 04:54 PM | #1
didnt it occur to you it's kinda weird focus tree - sweep/kinetic oriented tree, got a piercing buff while vigilance is lacking it? seriously, i've compared master strike's damage while being in both trees and the damage is the same. shouldn't main attack be a little more damaging in both trees? i mean, focus got its sweep, can vig get a master strike buff? or other kind of edge?

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SerowTOR
11.22.2012 , 07:35 PM | #2
Isn't that edge in the talent "Zen Strike"?

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Karasuko
11.22.2012 , 07:39 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Carousel_t View Post
didnt it occur to you it's kinda weird focus tree - sweep/kinetic oriented tree, got a piercing buff while vigilance is lacking it? seriously, i've compared master strike's damage while being in both trees and the damage is the same. shouldn't main attack be a little more damaging in both trees? i mean, focus got its sweep, can vig get a master strike buff? or other kind of edge?
Errrrr your getting nearly 3 times as many master strikes as vigi over focus. Why does it need a buff again?

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Carousel_t
11.23.2012 , 02:47 AM | #4
it needs a buff bcoz as a vig speced guardian you deal the same ammount of damage with MS as a focus one, actualy focus deals more damage with masterstrike - which is bizzare considering focus is a force oriented spec whereas vig is more about sword attacks.

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Karasuko
11.23.2012 , 07:02 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Carousel_t View Post
it needs a buff bcoz as a vig speced guardian you deal the same ammount of damage with MS as a focus one, actualy focus deals more damage with masterstrike - which is bizzare considering focus is a force oriented spec whereas vig is more about sword attacks.
How does 1 master strike do more damage than 2-3 master strikes?

I bounce between both specs frequently and I find my master strike hits for more as Vigi in the exact same gear.

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byteresistor
11.23.2012 , 08:33 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Carousel_t View Post
actualy focus deals more damage with masterstrike
I don't feel this is the case at all. While focus gets 30% armor pen, don't forget that vigilance gets a 12% increased damage to all melee attacks (shien form 6% + single saber mastery 6%), and that includes master strike.

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-ThEoNe-
12.28.2012 , 06:58 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by byteresistor View Post
I don't feel this is the case at all. While focus gets 30% armor pen, don't forget that vigilance gets a 12% increased damage to all melee attacks (shien form 6% + single saber mastery 6%), and that includes master strike.
On top of Zen Strike's master strike CD reset. So yeah, I feel fine with MS as it is now in Vigi tree.
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Exilim
12.29.2012 , 10:53 AM | #8
Armor sunders are also kind of standard with vigilance rotations too hmmm. The armor pen is there it's just disguised in a few focus generating attacks.
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