tomofoureleven Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 This thread is old, and some things have changed, but balance shadows do good damage. You need to learn to play. The sims showed Balance Shadows at the top of the list in base campaign gear (although sentinels/marauders weren't tested). http://www.simulationcraft.org/swtor/130/Raid_Campaign.html It's still the best PvE spec for Shadows and does damage at least as good as anything a Sage can put out. This particular simulation is done with the base campaign gear of each class, this means that some classes will be more optimised than others. You cannot judge the comparative dps this way. Also it seems that a concealment operative does nearly 50 more dps than a scrapper scoundrel, despite being identical classes Marksman snipers do 200 more dps than sharpshooter gunslingers?????? Please stop using this Sim to try compare dps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerJBD Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 If you have better numbers, please provide them. If not, stop complaining. Shadows can do perfectly good DPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twolightsabers Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) Thanks for this ever so insightful and helpful post. This is exactly the kind of learned discourse that really helps the community to grow. [/sarcasm] If I'm doing it worng, that suggests there's something very wrong with the game mechanics. There should never be a predfined set way to play in an mmo like this, there's even less excuse when the player is bombarded with so many skills. Seriously this is the worst game I've ever seen for excess skill baggage. Rather than just spouting unhelpful, arrogant garbage, perhaps you could instead perhaps point out what rotatations in a prolonged fight might better handle resources? Unfortunately the only guides that are availble are somewhat out of date. You sound like a very bad player who instead of actually learning his class, lashes out at anyone and everyone. "It's everyone's fault but mine" won't get you far in life, even less further in an MMO. You want suggestions? Go play Hello Kitty's Adventure Island. Edited December 17, 2012 by Twolightsabers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPAlien Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 this is probably the most false thing ive ever seen on the forums. lets start witha list of AC'sthat DPS higher. focus sentinal watchman sentinal gunnary commando assault commando balance sage TK sage hybrid sage sharpshooter gunslinger and some more that may as well be higher. infil shadows vigilance guardians focus guardians assault vanguards My main is a Shadow and we ARE siverely subpar as DPS. this is fact.. Hahahah, you literally have no idea what you are doing, do you? Infil shadows are most definitely not higher than balance, guardians will never be higher, neither will vanguards, or sages. Sents and commandos are highly dependent on who is playing them (although the commando rotation is piss easy). I agree with the previous post, you have no idea what the word 'Fact' means do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haksilence Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hahahah, you literally have no idea what you are doing, do you? Infil shadows are most definitely not higher than balance, guardians will never be higher, neither will vanguards, or sages. Sents and commandos are highly dependent on who is playing them (although the commando rotation is piss easy). I agree with the previous post, you have no idea what the word 'Fact' means do you? in my guild alone we have two sages that parse give or take 2k DPS on the ops dummy without adrenals, armour debuffs, or inspiration or anything) and i have never seen a shadow hit 2k even in prime gear and played well the best ive seen was 1750 as far as vanguards I have seen over 1850 from people who play them as alts in just campaign gear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khevar Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 in my guild alone we have two sages that parse give or take 2k DPS on the ops dummy without adrenals, armour debuffs, or inspiration or anything) and i have never seen a shadow hit 2k even in prime gear and played well the best ive seen was 1750 as far as vanguards I have seen over 1850 from people who play them as alts in just campaign gear... After 5 minutes of searching for Shadow dps parses: http://www.torparse.com/a/80855/9 1807 Writhing Horror http://www.torparse.com/a/80633/7 2381 Kephess And this was uploads in the last 24 hours. If I spent more time I could find a number of Ops dummy parses. Just because you've never seen anyone that actually knows how to play a Shadow dps, doesn't mean there aren't plenty of other players who can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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