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Advice for upgrading GPU please?

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Ventonix
11.25.2013 , 07:35 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by TominatorBriss View Post
My Laptop

Lenovo G710

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4000M CPU @ 2.40GHz
Manufacturer Intel
Speed 2.4 GHz
Number of Cores 4

Video Card 1 Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Chipset Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Dedicated Memory 16 MB
Manufacturer Intel
Total Memory 1.8 GB

Video Card 2 NVIDIA GeForce GT 720M
Chipset GeForce GT 720M
Dedicated Memory 1.0 GB
Total Graphics Memory 3.8 GB

Memory 6.0 GB
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit


I can run game on Highest graphics with no lag at all not even on the fleet, 16m ops or warzones so try to find a desktop version of parts matching those specs or higher also try this link: http://www.covenantofthephoenix.com/...ing-framerate/

Helped me run this game on a modded dell 1545 ati graphics edition laptop and that is older than your pc
Ok I'll look into that link but define "no lag". Do you mean 70+ fps in fleet, warzones, and ops consistently??
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TominatorBriss
11.25.2013 , 07:49 PM | #42
Yes by no lag i Mean no lag what so ever and if it ever does its because my connection to the server is on one bar (rarely happens but everyone gets it now and then)

Graphics wise i recommend a DDR-5 Graphics card with atleast 1 GB or more (some ddr-3 are fine but its finding the right one) for example of one is GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2 GB - my brother uses that and he has same performance as me though i dont know his frame rate but he never lags once on anythink so just a example of really the benchmark you wana be aiming for or higher.

My Laptop one is a ddr-3 graphics but id done alot of research in buying a laptop just for this game when im on the move.


do some research on what graphics people use to play this game (its not all about how much it costs) remember your trying to find a graphics card that is more compatible with the game not trying to find a beast of a graphics card.

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morfius
11.26.2013 , 01:39 AM | #43
So much blah in this tread...
1st of all, FPS limitation is easy checked on populated zone at fleet - just try with low and high graphic settings - if there is no difference in FPS - you are limited by CPU, if there is large one - from GPU.
1 GB VRAM is not good above 1920x1080 (1200) ... GPU by itself may not be overloaded but some of textures will go to system ram - slow due to transfers.
Windows 8 is optimized 7 ... all that crap about it is just because interface is different, already tested - performance is at least same.

OP PC seems capable at whole but there may be some things to check.
- Temperatures - overheat means dropping performance (automatically) to keep system safe.
- PSU - bad or low power one will limit CPU & GPU performance.
- Direct X 9 (Windows Vista, 7 & 8 have no full DX9, they rely on 10/11) - SWTOR is fully Direct X 9 - go to Microsoft site and download Direct X 9 redistributable ... install it.
- VC++ & .Net - update them or install full packs from Microsoft.
- HDD load - SWTOR engine have too much HDD load - DiscCasheArena is like Windows swap file, all effect data is taken from files on HDD (due to RAM limitations of 32 bits processes) & so on. Even simple loading of DiscCasheArena in RamDrive (Unleashed with only this in RAM have no issues on game updates) affect delays measurable. SSD make some things very different but it is not a cheap toy.
- Bloatware, torrents, browsers and browser objects + adobe plugins - up to 50% difference on some systems.
- GPU with 2 GB DDR5 VRAM
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DKNS
11.26.2013 , 02:21 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Ventonix View Post
I turned off V-Sync and didn't really notice a difference other than there not being an FPS cap and it sometimes going up to 110 for no reason. It was still 30 - 50 FPS in warzones. I have never seen my GPU load go over 50 percent while playing this game...so that's concerning as well.

More importantly though, now that I know what the colors mean for the fps in game reading, it is always red. So I guess this means its my GPU that sn't rendering up to par with my CPU.
It goes to 110 because V-Sync removes the FPS limit (60 by default). It will max load your components until one of them bottle-necks the other.

But yea, SWTOR's coding is still bad. I can see my FPS spike as well randomly even though my GPU is 70-80% loaded. My CPU though is at a constant 30-40% at Ultra settings. i5-2500 like i said before it a very good CPU and you should only consider your GPU for upgrades if you want to upgrade.

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Ventonix
11.26.2013 , 03:21 PM | #45
I think I'll go ahead and buy an nvidia card just to see if there is a difference between nvidia cards and AMD cards.
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morfius
11.27.2013 , 03:04 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Ventonix View Post
I think I'll go ahead and buy an nvidia card just to see if there is a difference between nvidia cards and AMD cards.
Get at least 2 GB DDR5 VRAM ... Something like or above GTX 650 TI 2GB DDR5
"The Aing-Tii have a different view of the Force. Not in terms of Jedi or Dark Jedi—of black and white, as it were—but in a way I like to think of as a full-color rainbow."

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DKNS
11.27.2013 , 05:12 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Ventonix View Post
I think I'll go ahead and buy an nvidia card just to see if there is a difference between nvidia cards and AMD cards.
It's not something NVidia/AMD side. Even though i play at 40-60FPS most of the time, it will spike occasionally especially on the fleets or any place having a huge population. The game does seem smoother with SWTOR Unleashed but loading and unloading it is too much of a bother. Maybe you should try it if you have 8GB+ RAM.

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morfius
11.27.2013 , 05:22 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by DKNS View Post
It's not something NVidia/AMD side. Even though i play at 40-60FPS most of the time, it will spike occasionally especially on the fleets or any place having a huge population. The game does seem smoother with SWTOR Unleashed but loading and unloading it is too much of a bother. Maybe you should try it if you have 8GB+ RAM.
Load just DiscCasheArena file and leave it there ... it works without messing updates because this file is like Windows swap file - recreated when needed/missing automatically.
On old PC with 6 GB RAM - same file on Unleashed reduce measurable spikes and loading delays.

Check your HDD load from bloatware, torrents, browsers ... power option also.
"The Aing-Tii have a different view of the Force. Not in terms of Jedi or Dark Jedi—of black and white, as it were—but in a way I like to think of as a full-color rainbow."