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Good and bad but I'm still leaving STWOR

Beltane's Avatar

04.30.2013 , 04:37 PM | #11
Well, that's really strange then... and I agree that is bad design, if they really do have more adds for groups. I have only done quests solo or in a group of two, aside from Heroic 4s.

As for GW2, it's just like apples and oranges. I think the game is nice for what it is but it couldn't hold my interest. It has practically no quests, which is nice on the one hand, til you realize that it isn't really all that exciting to run around repeating the same daily and random quests over and over either. And as a person who ALWAYS plays a healer main, the lack of traditional MMO roles was an interest killer for me. I don't hate GW2 or anything, just my opinion.

No MMO is perfect in the end, though.
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Kittenor's Avatar

04.30.2013 , 04:56 PM | #12
Heh, I know what you mean about GW2 lacking traditional roles. You should have heard my group trying to get their heads around that one, it was pretty hilarious. We're so used to carefully setting up our classes and talents to balance each other and here we have GW2 whose general philosophy seems to be "see it, kill it". I really chose it for the group as a break from micromanaging and heavy thinking. I'm sure it won't last but I hope we have fun for a year or two.

I'm still sad about SWTOR not being more group friendly. I really wanted to play just for the stories, they really are well written. I know that no MMO is perfect but it was just becoming too long and frustrating a slog between the excellent writing and voice acting.

By the way, as I stated before I am posting all of this less to complain and more in the hopes that someone Bioware side will see it and maybe it can be in some way helpful for improving future titles. A wild hope I know but what can I say, I'm an optimist.

xxIncubixx's Avatar

05.01.2013 , 08:53 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by sdgiasyui View Post
I really enjoyed Guild wars 2 Better game then swtor on almost every possible way, except story (my opinion), Yet Swtor is still a good game
problem of guild wars 2 to me is that there isnt any character progression... no carrots, just bores me after a month.

Paitryn's Avatar

05.01.2013 , 02:31 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Beltane View Post
Have you been keeping your gear updated? Do you have a healer in your group? Do you use health packs in emergencies and keep your rotation up to date with the most efficient abilities for your build/level?

I ask because I have solo leveled 7 characters to 50 and the gameplay is incredibly easy for me--and I do not consider myself an extraordinarily skilled gamer in the least. I don't understand how a 4 man group could wipe on content 6 levels below them unless the things I mentioned above weren't being met.

What I will agree with is that there are way too many silvers/golds around. The golds definitely have made me wipe when they show up during a fight with a bunch of adds, but I can normally either CC it or, at worst, die, heal up, and take it down with full health. No different from any other MMO, really... eventually you'll die to the golds. Most golds can be avoided by situational awareness though (which I suck at, but still).

I just hate to see people leaving when the game is too hard, when many people complain it's too easy lol.
QFT. If this game is too hard for you, I don't really know what to say. I fight most things at my level getting my 4th toon to 50 (some at 55) and die rarely. I'm not some uber awesome elite, I generally play casually and do some seriously dumb moves that can get me killed but pull it off and survive. Mostly If I die, its to my own stupidity. That or I haven't played that character in a while and realize how undergeared he/she may be.

So your saying that if you level in a full group the solo stuff gets that much harder? Hmm may have to check that for myself again but I've never experienced that problem before when I leveled toons in groups for solo content. (though often when we hit a class mission area we would split and come back to save time and not spoil the story for others)

Aikura's Avatar

05.01.2013 , 06:14 PM | #15
Yeah, though I'm sorry to see the OP leave I'm really not sure what to make of the reason. It's like he's playing a different game. Generally, I find the content fairly easy solo, and WAY too easy in a group. And I'm not a very good player. I tend to go for style > efficiency.

Two elites and three silvers six levels below you? For a four player group? You could flatten them with one eyelash.

kijthae's Avatar

05.02.2013 , 02:42 AM | #16
Thanks for sharing your decision with us but i wonder why did you need to do so ?

DarthFletcher's Avatar

05.02.2013 , 06:26 PM | #17
Really hate these threads about being under powered, and then quit because not one of the people in these said parties as come to the conclusion, it isn't the game its the player.

When levelling a character I tend to do things solo, now don't get me wrong I lead a fantastic Guild and group of people and do event regular with them, but I like to go out in the field with a new toon and get a feel for what it is and can do.

Now my 1st char was a BH and man I got the Belsavis and things went nose diving, and I lost interest, the same thing happened mobs became "too powerful" so I rolled a Juggernaught and took to it again and thats when I actually became aware of stat changes. I then took a break from all gaming to focus on real life for a bit and when I came back I made a Jedi Consular whom I tried to keep geared best I could to get back into the game.

I never had any issues and found even out of sorts geared I could clear my content with minimal fuss and by time I made my Main (Jedi Knight Guardian) I was well and truly understanding the concept of gear and keeping up to date.

When you say your under powered it isn't the game's fault, or bioware but yourselves between the 4 of you, you should have been complimenting with crew skills that covered all the armouring, mods, hilts, barrels and enhancements you would need to keep up to par for your level between the lot of you, you had the chance to make your gear better than what drops in flash points by taking the time to do it.

My Guardian and my new Gunslinger have had adaptive gear with mods done infact the bank for the smuggler even though she is Lv38 contains every armour, mod, barrel, enhancement to Lv50 and even Bowdar's equipment is the same.

Yes the game punishes you for not being "on par" but had you taken the learning curves everyone of us have had to make you wouldn't be cancelling you would be owning FPs together in your 4 man party!
I have a bad feeling about this

Veilwolf's Avatar

05.03.2013 , 10:10 PM | #18
Solo levelling, or even with one friend, is extremely simple. I do know what the OP is talking about, but I don't share his opinion. Once you reach 3 players in a party, in every instance, every pull has adds that spawn on the initial pull, it adds a little more intensity to the fight, and by that, I mean very little. We have a group that runs together regularly, none were carefully planned out to cover for any perceived weakness, we just rolled characters and went out to curb stomp some missions. Honestly, we didn't even really notice the extra adds right away, because as a group, they all melt so fast anyway.

Honestly, if a group of self-described 'very good' players is wiping on content 6 levels below your current level while trying to cover each others weaknesses, it's not the game I'm afraid, it's the players. I run as a pseudo-tank on my powertech, meaning I pull aggro while DPS spec'd and using combustible cylinders. Our 'healer' is an Operative DPS spec'd and to round it out we have a Mara and Assassin (again, DPS spec'd) I can't even say it's your gear, because when we're out stomping around, we really fall behind on maintaining our gear and it doesn't slow us down at all.

TL;DR OP, It isn't the game, it's your party.

anthoneus's Avatar

05.04.2013 , 12:16 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by sdgiasyui View Post
I really enjoyed Guild wars 2 Better game then swtor on almost every possible way, except story (my opinion), Yet Swtor is still a good game
I just come from gw2 I just like SwTOR a bit better. GW2's pve is kinda boring and the combat aint so great but good yet. But mostly it's because I like the Star Wars universe alot and compared to GW2's weak world and dank conversations SWTOR wins. GW2 however have much newer graphics and I'd say SWTOR was never a graphic heavy game.