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DarthZak
01.09.2013 , 11:11 PM | #1
Ok whats up with this?
On my Sage I ran from Nar Shadaa till Corellia as PvP flagged and only once was I attacked, on Hoth. Same with any other toon I flag, hardly anybody attacks! All the open world PvP I see is 50's who camp lowlevel planets and grief lowbies (then the lowbies call in the cavelry and we pwn them, Im looking at you Sparoww)

We need more people actually fighting!
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Rincewend
01.10.2013 , 12:39 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthZak View Post
Ok whats up with this?
On my Sage I ran from Nar Shadaa till Corellia as PvP flagged and only once was I attacked, on Hoth. Same with any other toon I flag, hardly anybody attacks! All the open world PvP I see is 50's who camp lowlevel planets and grief lowbies (then the lowbies call in the cavelry and we pwn them, Im looking at you Sparoww)

We need more people actually fighting!
We are on a PVE server not a PVP server. I never even see 50's camping low level planets. I did used to see a Trooper on Ilum in the morning camping the Heroic's and healing the NPC's or standing in your AOE's to flag you than kill you.
Other than that the last Open World PVP I saw was Outlaws Den for the HK part, That was mostly 50's too and our guild camped the Jawa to keep it from the republic (at least until someone on the empire side started attacking us after walking into a smash). The Crying and the amount of people saying they are going to report us went on for days.

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DrewFromPhilly
01.10.2013 , 12:48 AM | #3
I've been yelled at via /say for killing pubs in the black hole...they told me I would be reported for griefing as simply being on "their side" of the instance was a violation of the TOS or something. Meh, they were flagged and I didn't flag them. But there are many, many ppl on the server who seem opposed to the idea of world pvp let alone participating...and all of the ones I've seen have been pubs

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Rincewend
01.10.2013 , 03:22 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by DrewFromPhilly View Post
I've been yelled at via /say for killing pubs in the black hole...they told me I would be reported for griefing as simply being on "their side" of the instance was a violation of the TOS or something. Meh, they were flagged and I didn't flag them. But there are many, many ppl on the server who seem opposed to the idea of world pvp let alone participating...and all of the ones I've seen have been pubs
During the HK part I had a few Imperials crying outside the Den about it and even some followed me back to fleet. I remember even reading that people on the PVP server were trying to report people for it.

No it is not aganist the TOS so long as you did not force them to flag by the tricks I assume are still in game. Healing the NPC, dirty but also not aganist the TOS and not PVP as I know. You best hope is to ask for duels but other than waiting from people to run back during ops I almost never get a duel.

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CaptianFordo
01.10.2013 , 07:36 AM | #5
It's only griefing when people heal NPC's (that the opposite faction have to kill in daily areas), cloak themselves while flagged and run into a questing player's AOE who's killing a bunch of mobs, etc.

I've been on the receiving end of these tactics many a time and I don't particularly like being forced into PVP, but it's something we have to deal with.

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Isislol
01.10.2013 , 07:43 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Rincewend View Post
No it is not aganist the TOS so long as you did not force them to flag by the tricks I assume are still in game.

What you do is you have one person flagged outside of pubs base in BH while 3 stealthers are lurking around. Works every time.

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DarthZak
01.10.2013 , 09:02 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Rincewend View Post
We are on a PVE server not a PVP server. I never even see 50's camping low level planets. I did used to see a Trooper on Ilum in the morning camping the Heroic's and healing the NPC's or standing in your AOE's to flag you than kill you.
Other than that the last Open World PVP I saw was Outlaws Den for the HK part, That was mostly 50's too and our guild camped the Jawa to keep it from the republic (at least until someone on the empire side started attacking us after walking into a smash). The Crying and the amount of people saying they are going to report us went on for days.
Im not saying to go full on PvP action but travelling around several planets PvP flagged and meeting loads of Imp's and none of them take a shot at me? Thats kinda "Ugh, really?"

Yea Ive seen them griefing on Ilum (both sides) a lot as well. Kinda annoying
The HK part is the funniest thing ever. I went in and there were 5 Imps waiting and slashed me down. Little did they know I was merely a scout for my Ops group which had 12 people or something, that was brilliant. But thats what open world PvP should be about! Its like gangwars and things like that and it doesnt happen nearly enough

Quote: Originally Posted by CaptianFordo View Post
It's only griefing when people heal NPC's (that the opposite faction have to kill in daily areas), cloak themselves while flagged and run into a questing player's AOE who's killing a bunch of mobs, etc.

I've been on the receiving end of these tactics many a time and I don't particularly like being forced into PVP, but it's something we have to deal with.
Ugh I hate it when they force flag people, they do it sometimes when killing Nightmare Pelgrim and its annoying as hell. I usually just take one other DPS and strike them down but it really messes up the rotation
Same happens to Dreadtooth btw

Quote: Originally Posted by DrewFromPhilly View Post
I've been yelled at via /say for killing pubs in the black hole...they told me I would be reported for griefing as simply being on "their side" of the instance was a violation of the TOS or something. Meh, they were flagged and I didn't flag them. But there are many, many ppl on the server who seem opposed to the idea of world pvp let alone participating...and all of the ones I've seen have been pubs
Pfff me and a buddy sometimes go into the Imp side just to see if anyone is flagged and then jump em, we then stick around to see if they come back with back-up :P
People dont really see the fun in it I think which is a shame
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RyanReagan
01.10.2013 , 11:03 AM | #8
There is a reason I'm on a PvE server. I'll be honest I don't even know what a PvP flagged player looks like.

I like open world pvp in the endgame areas like Ilum and Black Hole where it can escalate into a brawl. But while questing, it seems to me to not ever be fair. "Oh, hey, I just got killed by a guy 5 levels above me. What a surprise....". Especially since I tend to always be a level or two behind the quests I'm doing.

OTOH, I do like sending duel requests to people who are sitting around the same area as me. Because at the end, they just get up and we go our seperate ways.
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Tilyanrana
01.10.2013 , 11:16 AM | #9
I flag all of my characters for PVP as soon as they are high enough level to do Tatooine and leave them flagged. As a result, I've had some nice (and frustrating) open world PVP fights with Wook , omgPink, and few other Republic guilds. I've been ganked, and done some ganking, but at the end of the day I enjoy open world PVP and think it adds an interesting element to the game.

I personally hate the fact that PVP is mostly limited to WZs on this server, as I'm an old school 8v8 open world (DAoC style) player, but that's what I get for rolling on a PVE server. I wish more folks would flag themselves, but I don't begrudge them for choosing not to.
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Tilyanrana
01.10.2013 , 11:53 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by DrewFromPhilly View Post
I've been yelled at via /say for killing pubs in the black hole...they told me I would be reported for griefing as simply being on "their side" of the instance was a violation of the TOS or something. Meh, they were flagged and I didn't flag them. But there are many, many ppl on the server who seem opposed to the idea of world pvp let alone participating...and all of the ones I've seen have been pubs
I often head to the Republic side of BH when I'm done with my dailies (when I can bring myself to actually do them) and pick fights with anyone that flagged until the Pubic zerg comes to put a stop to it. I've also been ganked at the entrance to EoT a couple of times by a pretty good Shadow from Wook. I wish more folks would do this sort of thing as it definitely makes doing the dailies grind a lot more interesting.
The Rana Legacy | Shifted | The Shadowlands
Tilyan - Powertech | Tilyon - Marauder | Tillian - Assassin
Tilyen - Operative | Tilion - Guardian | Tylion - Shadow