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Rakata, Columi, Tionese


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mikebevo
12.11.2012 , 04:07 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Khevar View Post
Any new players that hit level 50 for the first time won't get the same feeling. Too bad, actually.
I got that same feeling the other night in HM TfB when I got my first Hazmat gear in my third time in HM TfB..... It felt great after not getting gear in months running with a new group in HM EC...felt just like the first time I did SM EC as the only smuggler in the group and all smuggler stuff felll....felt really great....up until............................................. .......I figured out that my BH belt was better. ...............Should have continued to pass until main or offhand fell.

The feeling is still there, it will just be later on higher level gear than what we got excited about.

I am excited about the tionese give away. Can't legacy hilts (as far as I know) so while my knight that hit 50 Sunday is full campign, rakata and black hole on everything but relic , belt (columi), bracers (columi) and ear. (columi)...She is running around with 51 hilts. At least now I can jump straight to HM or NIM KP and EC. Although I feel like a idiot running around Corellia geared like this finishing my story and planet quest (hit 50 on Voss).

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seven_deadlies
12.11.2012 , 11:53 PM | #12
Not to spoil the accomplishments of anyone out there.

But I personally have never fancied endgame raiding. Inevitably it goes down one of two paths.
- Either you join a group of "casual" gamers, who never get anywhere because they lack focus.

- Or you join "hard core" gamers, who act like military drill instructors. "You MUST be here PRECISELY 10 minutes early! You MUST be able to commit 10 hours of UNINTERRUPTED game play! You will be allotted a single bio break, which must be requisitioned 7-10 business days in advance!" and so on.

I prefer the money I spend each month on this video game, to go toward my amusement and entertainment. I just left the military after a 10 year tour. I'm not eager to re-enlist for the sake of a higher gear score.


That aside, I'm rather perturbed that my efforts to unlock the HK droid are apparently spoiled, unless I am willing to devote weeks if not months of grinding, to attain sufficient gear, that I can make a single run through HM MP. At the end of which, I will run off with the HK piece, and most likely never look at another Raid Instance again.

So I kinda like the notion of giving new 50s some "competitive" gear to use. Maybe they'll be more inclined to strive for better. Or maybe they'll turn around and roll another alt.

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FlyinSpaghetti
12.12.2012 , 12:38 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by sumuser View Post
LoL

What would be the point of Tionese then?


In general though, I'm glad tionese is basically being given out now. Before, if you wanted to run HMs (assuming you didn't want to grind out SM HMs only to re-grind columi in HM), you had to get your free PvP recruit. I think it makes more sense for people to start their grind in tionese rather then recruit!
They still need to buff the armor/weapon ratings of tionese to match recruits 132 rating, the only thing in general tionese has over recruit is base stats, and also you still don't get a full tionese set as you still need implants, earpiece, belt, bracers and relics.
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Thats no moon... thats a CARTEL COIN!

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Khevar
12.12.2012 , 01:19 AM | #14
@seven_deadlies, if you're on Begeren Colony, look me up and I'll take you through the fp for your HK part.

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FlyinSpaghetti
12.12.2012 , 02:50 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by seven_deadlies View Post
Not to spoil the accomplishments of anyone out there.

But I personally have never fancied endgame raiding. Inevitably it goes down one of two paths.
- Either you join a group of "casual" gamers, who never get anywhere because they lack focus.

- Or you join "hard core" gamers, who act like military drill instructors. "You MUST be here PRECISELY 10 minutes early! You MUST be able to commit 10 hours of UNINTERRUPTED game play! You will be allotted a single bio break, which must be requisitioned 7-10 business days in advance!" and so on.

I prefer the money I spend each month on this video game, to go toward my amusement and entertainment. I just left the military after a 10 year tour. I'm not eager to re-enlist for the sake of a higher gear score.


That aside, I'm rather perturbed that my efforts to unlock the HK droid are apparently spoiled, unless I am willing to devote weeks if not months of grinding, to attain sufficient gear, that I can make a single run through HM MP. At the end of which, I will run off with the HK piece, and most likely never look at another Raid Instance again.

So I kinda like the notion of giving new 50s some "competitive" gear to use. Maybe they'll be more inclined to strive for better. Or maybe they'll turn around and roll another alt.
HM maelstrom can be done in level 49 vendor gear, it's easier than esseles IMO recruit or tionese is more than enough.
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Thats no moon... thats a CARTEL COIN!

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mikebevo
12.12.2012 , 10:54 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by seven_deadlies View Post
Not to spoil the accomplishments of anyone out there.

But I personally have never fancied endgame raiding. Inevitably it goes down one of two paths.
- Either you join a group of "casual" gamers, who never get anywhere because they lack focus.

- Or you join "hard core" gamers, who act like military drill instructors. "You MUST be here PRECISELY 10 minutes early! You MUST be able to commit 10 hours of UNINTERRUPTED game play! You will be allotted a single bio break, which must be requisitioned 7-10 business days in advance!" and so on.
I think there is a third option. Get with a group of casual gamers that are extremely helpful, friendly and respectful and see all instances. I got lucky enough to get with such a group and I have seen everything up to NIM EC (have not been into NIM EC yet). We progress slower than other groups, but we do progress and we allow even those more casual than us to see HM and NIM Ops. There is no fighting, no blaming and no ordering. They do ask you to be on time if you are expecting to go, but we usually do not do raids for over 2 to 3 hours one night a week as a group. Although we run other raids during the week with more casual guild members to let them see it, get some experience and gear. Maybe I just got extremely lucky, but I know there is a third type of group.

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@seven_deadlies, if you're on Begeren Colony, look me up and I'll take you through the fp for your HK part.
Same if you are on The Harbinger... Look for Bremiaha...I will get a group to get you a very good and friendly group to get you through it.

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Gwence
12.12.2012 , 12:34 PM | #17
itemization in this game is poorly designed imo, always has been. Everything is based around getting the 63 armorings/mods/enhancements etc, everyone knows what they are getting before they get it.

it's lame

they need to add in unique loot tables to bosses that are different with better stats that are not craftable or attached to any type or armor set and random chance at dropping so it's not known what is going to drop before hand. Probably keep it to nightmare instances and leave the armor sets and same old boring loots to the story mode and hard mods.

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Mozivicus
12.12.2012 , 01:11 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by seven_deadlies View Post
Not to spoil the accomplishments of anyone out there.

But I personally have never fancied endgame raiding. Inevitably it goes down one of two paths.
- Either you join a group of "casual" gamers, who never get anywhere because they lack focus.

- Or you join "hard core" gamers, who act like military drill instructors. "You MUST be here PRECISELY 10 minutes early! You MUST be able to commit 10 hours of UNINTERRUPTED game play! You will be allotted a single bio break, which must be requisitioned 7-10 business days in advance!" and so on.

I prefer the money I spend each month on this video game, to go toward my amusement and entertainment. I just left the military after a 10 year tour. I'm not eager to re-enlist for the sake of a higher gear score.


That aside, I'm rather perturbed that my efforts to unlock the HK droid are apparently spoiled, unless I am willing to devote weeks if not months of grinding, to attain sufficient gear, that I can make a single run through HM MP. At the end of which, I will run off with the HK piece, and most likely never look at another Raid Instance again.

So I kinda like the notion of giving new 50s some "competitive" gear to use. Maybe they'll be more inclined to strive for better. Or maybe they'll turn around and roll another alt.
Whisper Moz (republic) or magoo(empire) if you're on prophecy of the five , and I'll help you run through HM MP for your HK part.

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Karkais
12.12.2012 , 01:20 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by sumuser View Post
What would be the point of Tionese then?
Tionese has not had a point, ever. Not even in the beginning when Rakata was the best you could get. :P
"Their strength became my own. Their minds became my own. All flesh is my flesh. None move, save I will it. This is the rule the Sith were promised, and I have made it real!"
- From the codex of Karness Muur

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Khevar
12.12.2012 , 01:34 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Karkais View Post
Tionese has not had a point, ever. Not even in the beginning when Rakata was the best you could get. :P
First level 50 way back was Commando dps. On my first L50 flashpoints I got some Tionese that were not only upgrades to the gear i was wearing, but helped me get my 4-piece set bonus faster.

And for a Gunnery Commando, free High Impact Bolt is a beautiful thing.