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Ghobe
12.05.2012 , 11:26 PM | #91
Well I can expect to never rank on horror simply due to our strategy.
9 Confirmed on dread guard.
11 Confirmed on operator.
Kephess we've confirmed that my guild has been doing it wrong so we'll see next week.
4 Confirmed on TFB.
3 Confirmed on Z&T.
1 Confirmed on Tanks.

If that's "many" then...sure.
Highest Parses: 2304 DPS 2439 DPS 2553 DPS
Ranked: #12 Zorn & Toth Nightmare #21 Writhing Horror Hard
Records updated last: 12/18/12.

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marshmallow
12.05.2012 , 11:32 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Ghobe View Post
Well I can expect to never rank on horror simply due to our strategy.
9 Confirmed on dread guard.
11 Confirmed on operator.
Kephess we've confirmed that my guild has been doing it wrong so we'll see next week.
4 Confirmed on TFB.
3 Confirmed on Z&T.
1 Confirmed on Tanks.

If that's "many" then...sure.
Its a hell of a lot more than 2 like you said before
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ancksunamur
12.06.2012 , 05:13 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Ghobe View Post
We were told that you need 4 people at ranged. If it's only 2 that's easy to change for the future.


I know this. I've spent so long perfecting my rotation without the use of orbital strike in single target situations that I'm trying to figure out the proper placement for it and trying to break my bad habit of where I used it prior when I did(which is what causes the energy problems). It's coming with time.

I also can't be that damned bad if there are only 2 other snipers ahead of me on some fights >.>
I was told by the nice man in van that there was CANDY in there!. When content is still fairly fresh, its not wrong to look at new ideas and try them. Especially, if your using a different guilds strategy. Who knows maybe you'll come up with something that works better for your raid make up. As far as your rotation here I'll help, since someone decided to call us a "Nice" guild (you all realize I can't stand that). Contact Dizzo/Drizzo in game, he may have the information your looking for. And lets face it not many high end snipers out there, and am not calling you bad, but to use that as a bench mark, is like me calling myself the greatest ice hockey player in all of the Congo.
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ArrrrMatey
12.06.2012 , 09:29 AM | #94
I'm willing to crown Vexo the king of story modes. Or maybe since he loves parsing against a dummy so much, king of the dummies!

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ancksunamur
12.06.2012 , 10:57 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by ArrrrMatey View Post
I'm willing to crown Vexo the king of story modes. Or maybe since he loves parsing against a dummy so much, king of the dummies!
Well played sir, I second the motion.
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marshmallow
12.06.2012 , 04:06 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by ArrrrMatey View Post
I'm willing to crown Vexo the king of story modes. Or maybe since he loves parsing against a dummy so much, king of the dummies!
I parse against the dummies to refine my rotation. Then I get a damn good parse and put it up. Also, I'm number one for the bastion on NiM kephess, and the terror from beyond. (destruktions parse on the tfb is irrelevant because he used the void disturbance debuff, bringing his REAL dps down to 1479.9)
#boom

#boss

#themdeeps
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paowee
12.06.2012 , 04:23 PM | #97
For other Snipers wishing to push their DPS on the ops dummy:
Due to my lack of knowledge on how these parses work, I initially would start the fight by putting DoTs up. I was wondering why my average was always sub 1900 until a GS buddy suggested to begin the fight by casting Orbital Strike followed by an Ambush to push the DPS cap up. Using the same rotation, starting the fight with an Orbital+Ambush will bump the parse enough so that your average levels out at higher values (values ofcourse which are still relevant your gear + rotation). And if those crit, it'll raise your average even more.

Ok so far at my current gear, been able to push only 2033 DPS 5 minutes.
http://www.torparse.com/a/65876/time...734/1354741037 with a Rakata attack adrenal, no BT, but used Shattershot which had a 75% uptime.

P.S. As soon as my guild.. comes back from holiday/casual mode hopefully I can start getting my BiS and push the parses again.. unless anyone from the server can make Keen Mods already >__<
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marshmallow
12.06.2012 , 04:24 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by paowee View Post
For other Snipers wishing to push their DPS on the ops dummy:
Due to my lack of knowledge on how these parses work, I initially would start the fight by putting DoTs up. I was wondering why my average was always sub 1900 until a GS buddy suggested to begin the fight by casting Orbital Strike followed by an Ambush to push the DPS cap up. Using the same rotation, starting the fight with an Orbital+Ambush will bump the parse enough so that your average levels out at higher values (values ofcourse which are still relevant your gear + rotation). And if those crit, it'll raise your average even more.

Ok so far at my current gear, been able to push only 2033 DPS 5 minutes.
http://www.torparse.com/a/65876/time...734/1354741037 with a Rakata attack adrenal, no BT, but used Shattershot which had a 75% uptime.

P.S. As soon as my guild.. comes back from holiday/casual mode hopefully I can start getting my BiS and push the parses again.. unless anyone from the server can make Keen Mods already >__<

P.S.S. It would be nice to have more Snipers to talk with regarding optimal specs / stats and stuff!
I've been trading emails with a certain Gunslinger (not from our server) and his parses are beautiful.
http://www.torparse.com/a/62358/time...771/1354512241
(i dont know what buffs/debuffs were present during his parse but I can ask)
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paowee
12.06.2012 , 04:30 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by ArrrrMatey View Post
I'm willing to crown Vexo the king of story modes. Or maybe since he loves parsing against a dummy so much, king of the dummies!
Parsing and pushing numbers in the dummy shouldn't be downgraded! It requires a lot of attention regarding your rotation and one mistake will dip your numbers by a huge amount... (~30-60). I don't know about Marauder rotations but if you are a Sniper for example and you use a Rifle Shot instead of squeezing a DPS ability because you don't have the Crit % to maintain the more energy intensive rotations, you will see that that 1 Rifle Shot will bring your numbers down a lot.

One can argue that if one is able to push the parses as much as one can on the dummy and spends minutes if not hours total on the dummy, then that person have had and HAS considerable enough practice that he can more accurately apply the same performance ON an actual boss fight (mechanics included).

Since the rotation is now "muscle memory" then he can pay more attention to raid mechanics while doing as much DPS as possible. And from the flames that I remember reading in this thread but have been deleted by a mod, knowing raid mechanics means not standing in red circles, not standing in blue circles, paying attention to circles... etc etc.

EDIT* ADDED:
Quote: Originally Posted by marshmallow View Post
I parse against the dummies to refine my rotation. Then I get a damn good parse and put it up.
Exactly. Parsing against the dummy's sole end-goal is to merely increase personal performance via "refining and figuring out your rotation," see this scenario:

A Sniper on orb duty, wearing, and in a raid group geared with mix BH and Rakata Gear who is currently having trouble with Kephess The Undying timers and trying to figure out how to push his DPS so they can down this damn boss already which they've been wiping on for more than half an hour.

Using Orbital -> Ambush -> DoTs as your rotation will bump your DPS high enough that it just might be the difference between killing Kephess or not because you discovered from parsing that this is the optimal burst DPS rotation. The said rotation significantly increased the Sniper's damage throughout Kephess' 4 stacks as compared to when he was using the rotations below:

Ambush -> DoTs -> Orbital or
DoTs -> Orbital -> Ambush.
Orbital -> Ambush -> DoTs will do more damage because you only have a short amount of time before the 4 stacks run out and so it is important to get your harder hitting abilities first, put dots as fast as you can, followed by a Cull before the stacks run out.

Ofcourse if you are able to precast your DoTs in preparation for a burn phase (which you should.. and there are a lot of opportunities in the Kephess fight even if you are on orb duty), doing a

Orbital -> Ambush -> Cull instead will be your optimal non sustainable burst rotation.
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Ghobe
12.06.2012 , 05:53 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by paowee View Post
What every Sniper should aim for:
http://www.torparse.com/a/62358/time...771/1354512241
(i dont know what buffs/debuffs were present during his parse but I can ask)
Holy hell he misses a lot....though I suppose that's that gunslinger offhand eh?
hrm...uses snipe often-ish...has interrogation probe...maintains shatter...prevents dots from ever becoming weak...has the extra explosives after explosive probe blows...interesting...have no idea what the sniper equivalent of burning force is...unless that's the dread guard relic...did quite a large number of rifle shots...hrm...

Might have to respec...might need to see if I can switch out a rifle shot for a snipe some times...but I don't think I can...hrm...
Highest Parses: 2304 DPS 2439 DPS 2553 DPS
Ranked: #12 Zorn & Toth Nightmare #21 Writhing Horror Hard
Records updated last: 12/18/12.