Croba Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I find the targeting for healers to be annoying, the fact that you cant assist through your tank and dps through them, you have to f1/f2/f3/f4 through the group, then turn and target the next mob, takes a ton of time away from being to throw some damage out and readjust to targeting someone to heal. Assist targeting would make a huge difference for healing in instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 We can only hope the addon/macro API Bioware is writing as we speak gives us a lot more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScytheNoire Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 This is one of many problems facing the game right now. The UI, especially for healers, is horrible. Hopefully a fix will be coming. A game should not be made more challenging by having a bad and limiting UI. That's not the proper way to make it harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namnbrist Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 How hard can it be whit only 4 players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlamorel Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Yes, there are a plethora of problems facing us healers right now involving targeting, health bars not updating, UI, etc. Please make this a high priority BW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knyfe Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Everything said in this thread is spot on. It is INCREDIBLY annoying to have no click on the actual toon whilst in a warfront to be able to heal. Raid frame health bars are just not updating in sync with actual healthbars, making it extremely annoying to heal and switching between targets. I hope BioWare sorts this out soon. It's the only thing dragging down the gaming experience right now. Other than that I'm having loads of fun. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wargan Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I can't agree more. As you mention, the fact that raid and party frames are bugging out half the time in Flashpoints and Warzones makes clicking on players the only option for me. And when has that ever been effective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unago Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I don't have the problem that the bars aren't updating, even though one of my guildies is having that issue, but I do agree that we need some sort of mouseover or better targeting system for healers . While I am here complaining, we also need the ability to make the debuffs bigger or separate from the buffs. Anyone remember Athiss the last boss with the debuff... It's really hard to see when someone has the debuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvan Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I don't see the problem. Raid frames, or even just regular group bars are updating fine for me, and it's not exactly hard in a 4 person group to see who is getting hit. You should know before they get hit who is about to get hit, that is what a good healer does. As a consular sage, my best heals take a few seconds to land, so I have to be prepared and time things so my team don't lose alot of heal before i can actually heal em. General rule of healing. If a team member gets his once, and their health drops a small bit, start to heal them as they are going to get hit again right away. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlamorel Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Consider yourself lucky, sir! 100% of my issues in SWTOR right now would be solved right now if the health bars were updating correctly for me. This is a huge burden in PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylez Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Again, amazing silence from the customer care department of BW on this issues that has been around since beta. Instead of promising lots of great content in the future, do something about the poor state of the UI and ToT today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakos Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Healing feels pretty inefficient right now because of the UI functionality. I'd thought this would be taken care of by launch as well, but its just another thing to continually suggest until they add it. On the one hand, it feels really oldschool and is nostalgic. On the other hand, the oldschool was torn down because it sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssfbistimg Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I don't see the big deal. i heal just fine as is. really isn't that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpmenow Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I don't see the problem. Raid frames, or even just regular group bars are updating fine for me, and it's not exactly hard in a 4 person group to see who is getting hit. You should know before they get hit who is about to get hit, that is what a good healer does. As a consular sage, my best heals take a few seconds to land, so I have to be prepared and time things so my team don't lose alot of heal before i can actually heal em. General rule of healing. If a team member gets his once, and their health drops a small bit, start to heal them as they are going to get hit again right away. Works for me. QFT I do not understand why you guys are complaining. I am running an IA healer, and having no problems with the UI, no problems determining who is going to get hit, and no problems actually healing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloorp Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I have the same problems as mentioned. Futher i find it rather annoying to cant set ALT Button to selfcastmodifier. I dont heal myself by clicking me on raidframes, i was always healing myself with a selfcastmodifier set on ALT I dont know why its not possible to do so. Theres no reason why ALT, CTRL or SHIFT is not able to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldisper Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I an aware of some healing add ons coming out, Also you if you are a programer you may be or have some Ideas in the works.. Add ons usually take about a week before they come out.I would check curse.com , wowwiki and see if any are on the horrizon yet. P.S. They also take submissions if you have add ons you have made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaaen Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 .. I have absolutely no issues or problems cycling through my party members for heals and dmg'ing mobs. I find it refreshing to play an mmo without tons of addons, boring as all **** when you have an addon that tells you when to move/jump/run away rather than look at the fight/remember when things happen (% wise) - Same goes for healing and threat keeping. If you have issues healing and dmg'ing, especially in the later flashpoints - stop trying to deal out dmg, there's 2 (if not 3) other players for that, let them focus on that, and you focus on keeping everyone alive. Did not mean for this to be a "lolololol damn qq'rs lololol" reply, just voicing my opinion. I hope to god they don't let us make and add all kinds of addons right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizzletits Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) .. I have absolutely no issues or problems cycling through my party members for heals and dmg'ing mobs. I find it refreshing to play an mmo without tons of addons, boring as all **** when you have an addon that tells you when to move/jump/run away rather than look at the fight/remember when things happen (% wise) - Same goes for healing and threat keeping. If you have issues healing and dmg'ing, especially in the later flashpoints - stop trying to deal out dmg, there's 2 (if not 3) other players for that, let them focus on that, and you focus on keeping everyone alive. Did not mean for this to be a "lolololol damn qq'rs lololol" reply, just voicing my opinion. I hope to god they don't let us make and add all kinds of addons right away. No addons in WoW (I assume that's what you're referencing) do what you say they do. At most they give an audio queue telling you to PAY ATTENTION, GET READY TO DO SOMETHING, YOU BETTER KNOW WHAT IT IS. All addons do for healing is make targetting more efficient, which is something this game will need if they want to keep a lot of people interested in the role. While it may not be hard to switch targets, it's damn inefficient to have to click a new target and then cast a heal. But yeah, while I haven't done pvp yet, I did do it in the beta, and targeting was a pain as health bars did not update right away. Maybe it's just my old computer, but still, I would like the issue to be brought up. Edited December 16, 2011 by Shizzletits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SniperAdi Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Yes my health bars are not updating too. anoying please fix!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reoh Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Pllleeeaaasssseeee make actionbar changing macro's. I don't have enough space and changing slowly by clicking is annoying and potentially hazardous to my tanks health. Also, yeah. there's an assist keybind but I didn't seem to get it working or something, a bigger issue imho is sometimes the raid/party-frames are still out of sync with actual player health (bars over their head, anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaaen Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 No addons in WoW (I assume that's what you're referencing) do what you say they do. At most they give an audio queue telling you to PAY ATTENTION, GET READY TO DO SOMETHING, YOU BETTER KNOW WHAT IT IS. All addons do for healing is make targetting more efficient, which is something this game will need if they want to keep a lot of people interested in the role. While it may not be hard to switch targets, it's damn inefficient to have to click a new target and then cast a heal. But yeah, while I haven't done pvp yet, I did do it in the beta, and targeting was a pain as health bars did not update right away. Maybe it's just my old computer, but still, I would like the issue to be brought up. ..Deadly boss mods does not do anything? It tells you when x boss will do x ability, a few times it's a little bit off, but most of the time it was accurate. No addon to make healing easier? Tons of addons you can just customize so all you do is click the person on grid (or similar) with a key binding through the addon, which starts healing right away. If that does not make healer easier (ridiculously so) then I don't know what makes it easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariliss Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I have never had a problem healing in beta or now. You don't need add-ons to make you a better healer. Add-ons takes alot of fun and challenge out of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croba Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Most healers dont want to just run behind hitting "heal" over and over, they should be able to participate more then that. Just adding a Target of Target (assist) will fix this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DkSharktooth Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 News flash, healthbars are not supposed to update instantly, especially with multiple or rapid constant damage coming in. They didn't in WOW and they never will here. If 1 person is getting ganged up on say in pvp by 4 people, their health bar cannot possibly register and update all the damage and healing done by displaying the bar going up then down on your screen accordingly. Yes, I am also a healer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonric Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) The only thing i would really like to see would be dual targeting or ToT. Other then that i have been fine so far, raid frames work well for me. Edited December 16, 2011 by Vonric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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