you could flip a coin 100 times and have it be tails 100 times.....probable? no, possible? yes.

 

 

It is just as likely to be 100 tails as it is any other combination.

Each flip is a simply 50/50 - so each time the coin is flipped there is as much chance of it being a tail as it is a head. What came before doesn't matter.

 

The "chances" of getting a particular drop in a hypercrate is only increased by the fact you've got 24 chances to get that item.

Each roll for each pack in the hypercrate is separate from any other roll.

 

This isn't any different to RE'ing 20 blue schematics and failing to get a single one to give you a purple.

Each roll is a separate entity and does not combine with other rolls.

Cartel bazar is just gambling disguised as an item shop, we don't want to shock underage players or their parents, your game is not working or making enough money ? no problem add gambling to it, gambling is so addictive you don't even need to push hard to make loads of money.

As noted many times, it's not gambling because you have no chance to lose your "stake" and you get exactly what you are told you are going to get.

Absolutely not. This just sends the message to BioWare that we want more cartel market items - it spoils it for the majority of players who either don't have the money or don't want to spend money on virtual items. So no they shouldn't be encouraged. That's why the whole concept of "pay 2 win" is dreaded, but maybe you would like the game to go that way.

 

I do find it funny that the only people defending the original poster are ones you can tell have spent loads on cartel packs themselves. You can call it "envy" all you like, but you're just trying to defend your gambling addiction and treat it like you don't have a problem.

 

You do.

 

Pay 2 Win? Oh, please. If you think SWTOR is P2W you don't know what that is. Equipment is unmodded, and emotes provides no bonus stats. Please explain to me whats pay2win about the cartel packs?

 

People who buy cartel packs shouldn't be discouraged, after all, they are funding the game.

 

You're welcome.

Hey, because of people like this- people get to play this game for free, and we get pretty cool things on the GTN for a few days worth of dailies.

 

I for one love these bounty crates- I've bought some using the monthly we get for subbing, and sold them on the GTN, then bought some rare things I wanted. People might say 'but muh cool in game stuff'- cosmetic things were coming out at a couple a month before- now they come out by dozens. "But it costs too much for muh mounts" I remember saving up over a million creds for that speeder that was the size of a car, and that's back near the game's beginning too- several cosmetic things were super expensive back then too.

 

Sorry, but f2p has been very, very good for subbers- and I like the gambling box strategy; if people want to part with their money, then so be it.

I WANT to agree with you because i have purchased several myself but then again, i see veractyls EVERYWHERE on the fleet. the mount im really interested in is that Cartel Luxury Skiff. I'd sell a kidney to get one of those babies

I WANT to agree with you because i have purchased several myself but then again, i see veractyls EVERYWHERE on the fleet. the mount im really interested in is that Cartel Luxury Skiff. I'd sell a kidney to get one of those babies

 

I Have the Skiff your looking for. Offer excepted.

 

Now how are we gonna do this, Im on Ebon Hawk. I can tranfer my toon with skiff to your server if you arn't on mine, that the easy part

 

Now to the Kidney

 

I'm gonna need some personal info, standard stuff age, weight , health status ect. ect.

 

Also i've never removed an organ from a living creature, living being the operative word ( no pun intended ) but i do have books with pictures and i feel about 90% sure i could extract a viable organ. As to the chances of your survival well given my lack of experence i'd put it at 25% ( alot depends on YOUR will to live so it could be higher or lower ) I do have a keen eye for detail, steady hands and stong stomach.

 

Please get back to me ASAP as i would like to list on Craigslist- Dubai and find a buyer Sooner we find a recipent the sooner you get the skiff and can enjoy it while you heal to full

 

So let me know how you wanna do this. I have some free time next week

Edited November 7, 2013 by Etheric

I dont know whats worse bioware charging for gambling on stuff u never get or ppl actually paying and expecting to win

The stupidity of gaming consumers and the shadiness of this company never ceases to amaze me...

 

Then I must say your naivety amaze me beyond words. Now go play your free game provided by the evil corporation, as you gladly suck up the scraps you get while living off the paying customers.

I dont know whats worse bioware charging for gambling on stuff u never get or ppl actually paying and expecting to win

 

IMO, Peoples expectations. I have absolutly no problem with gambling, at a casino you'll find me at the craps table. You'll also find i have zero expectations ( i personally believe that expectations only lead to disapointments so i did away with them years ago ) I play for fun.

 

Now you will never see me buy RNG boxes, becouse i'm not gambling for the oppertunity to LEASE, i don't mind PAYING to LEASE but i'm not gambe to do so, that will never happen.

 

Can i fault the RNG packs or the developers, no and yes. The RNG packs are offered and being a big believer in personal responsiblity, i leave it in the hands of the user, like a firearm its neither good nor bad its all in the usage. I do believe the developers CHEAPENED the reputation of the game by adding them and thereby hurt the game all in the name of short term profits, but its their game, go ahead be a wh0re maybe thats your fate, who am i to say, I ain't Jesus its not my job to save you.

 

I've completly lost my train of thought now so before i leve let me rccomend

Gustafson Souvvijon Blanc of which i drank an entire bottle of while typing this. Wine the Breakfast of Champions ( i don't know where you are but its 8:30 am here ) I'm sure its 5 o'clock somewhere

Edited November 7, 2013 by Etheric

Anyone who can't see that they tightened up the drop rate is kidding themselves. They should have left it well enough alone knowing that they'd still make tons of money. Now I don't usually say this about Bioware but this is an act of pure greed. "Hey if we drop the drop rate, they'll buy more packs because they really want this stuff." I only buy one hyper crate and a few random packs in each cycle because frankly, I do believe they tightened up the drop rate.

Then I must say your naivety amaze me beyond words. Now go play your free game provided by the evil corporation, as you gladly suck up the scraps you get while living off the paying customers.

 

Naive are those that pay to gamble on something that's probably not even regulated. Bioware has made changes to this game without telling players before (change drop of bosses, removing items , etc ) so I wouldn't b surprised if they do the same with the packs

Then I must say your naivety amaze me beyond words. Now go play your free game provided by the evil corporation, as you gladly suck up the scraps you get while living off the paying customers.

 

Free to play can't post here so your a moron

Then I must say your naivety amaze me beyond words. Now go play your free game provided by the evil corporation, as you gladly suck up the scraps you get while living off the paying customers.

 

Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you? Take a moment to consider the fact that only those of us who subscribe can post here and then perhaps...however unlikely this next part is...man up and apologize.

Well... this is not a new complaint. Look, why gamble at all when you can get exactly what you want from GTN? No RNG required.

 

Oh, yes, it can be expensive but there are plenty of people that like and play the RNG game. So... instead of opening all of your packs from a hypercrate, sell most of them on GTN for creds. That way you can buy the rare items you want from GTN, avoid all of the crap items, make a profit, and open a few packs yourself. It is a Win/Win.

Well... this is not a new complaint. Look, why gamble at all when you can get exactly what you want from GTN? No RNG required.

 

Oh, yes, it can be expensive but there are plenty of people that like and play the RNG game. So... instead of opening all of your packs from a hypercrate, sell most of them on GTN for creds. That way you can buy the rare items you want from GTN, avoid all of the crap items, make a profit, and open a few packs yourself. It is a Win/Win.

 

No, Flat out NO, I will NOT support the RNG packs whether directly or vicariously. I have not, will not buy anything off the GTN that came from an RNG pack, PERIOD. you can go around andf muck in the sewer all you want but don't expect to see me there.

Edited November 7, 2013 by Etheric

No, Flat out NO, I will NOT support the RNG packs whether directly or vicariously. I have not, will not buy anything off the GTN that came from an RNG pack, PERIOD. you can go around andf muck in the sewer all you want but don't expect to see me there.

 

Huh....you have to state this here as is Bioware even cares or as if those of us who pay for packs are going to change our opinion of them.

No, Flat out NO, I will NOT support the RNG packs whether directly or vicariously. I have not, will not buy anything off the GTN that came from an RNG pack, PERIOD. you can go around andf muck in the sewer all you want but don't expect to see me there.

 

I seem to have touched a nerve there. But relax, it was a suggestion for those that are complaining about the RNG. It obviously does not apply to you, and given your thoughts on the matter I'm not sure why you would even care.

 

BTW, I don't expect you to do anything but fly off the handle.

Anyone who can't see that they tightened up the drop rate is kidding themselves.

 

Well you see, they were tightening up the graphics on level 5 and, with wrench already in hand, they couldn't help but keep going. Next thing you know cartel packs and quest missions everywhere were all tightened up. It's all so tight now there should be no more memory leaking out.

 

I couldn't help myself

9 Hypercrates? What is that, around 500 bucks? & you got nothing you wanted? Tough luck. That's why I don't gamble.

No, Flat out NO, I will NOT support the RNG packs whether directly or vicariously. I have not, will not buy anything off the GTN that came from an RNG pack, PERIOD. you can go around andf muck in the sewer all you want but don't expect to see me there.

 

Your loss, my gain. When there is loads of the same type of CM armors and stuff all over GTN, it cause prices to decrease in order to be competitive and get their stuff sold.

 

I couldn't care less where it came from. Not like me not buying stuff off the GTN will stop people from buying CP.

The Cartel Packs can be fun, but they are basically a Vegas/Atlantic City slot machine. Each time you pull that "one arm bandit" you are rolling the dice and hoping you get all cherries

 

Enjoy the "chance" of it if that's your thing, but never expect that just because you buy a lot of them that something you want will drop. I agree with a previous poster, auction off the items you don't want on the GTN and use those profits to buy the mount you want.

Um, RNG?

if random worked the same way in vegas they would be shutting down the casinos. you have no idea if the implemented the rng code properly. after all, there are no bugs in this game.

So you are gonna pay some hobbyist for fake cartel stuff. I highly doub this game will be emulatable im sure they will keep pertinent code so that it wont function without it

 

I sure wish there was a COH emulator, but there isnt

Huh....you have to state this here as is Bioware even cares or as if those of us who pay for packs are going to change our opinion of them.

 

Did i have to , No., did i, yes. do i care what you do, not one bit.

The Cartel Packs can be fun, but they are basically a Vegas/Atlantic City slot machine. Each time you pull that "one arm bandit" you are rolling the dice and hoping you get all cherries

 

But unlike the "one armed bandit", with Cartel Packs, even if you don't get what you want, you can still put the excess loot on the GTN and make some money.

Edited November 7, 2013 by Glowrod