Comme je l'ai dit sur un autre post plus haut (http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=7095090#post7095090), le champ de mort doit être placé APRES l'affliction. Le dot ne tic pas immediatemment et le 1er tic beneficiera quand même de l'effet du champ de mort si celui ci est posé juste après l'affliction. De façon plus générale, et pour répondre à Esypha, oui le champ de mort applique son effet aux dots en cours

Poser les dots après le champ de mort est une erreure. L'affliction ne tic pas de suite et en faisant affliction > champ de mort > terreure rampante le 1er tic de l'affliction profitera quand même de l'effet du champ de mort Demonstration 23:49:24.730 Shyl'ran's Affliction adds effect Affliction (Not Cleanseable) to Operations Training Dummy. 23:49:24.918 Shyl'ran's Affliction causes 1 threat gain on Operations Training Dummy. 23:49:25.892 Shyl'ran activates Recklessness. 23:49:25.893 Shyl'ran gains Recklessness. 23:49:27.009 Shyl'ran activates Death Field. 23:49:27.010 Shyl'ran spends 45 Force. 23:49:27.011 Shyl'ran's Death Field heals Shyl'ran for 671. 23:49:27.012 Shyl'ran's Deathmark adds effect Deathmark (Force) to Operations Training Dummy. 23:49:27.012 Shyl'ran's Death Field critically hits Operations Training Dummy for 6440* internal damage, causing 6440 threat! 23:49:27.799 Shyl'ran's Affliction (Not Cleanseable) hits Operations Training Dummy for 845 internal damage, causing 845 threat. Comme on le voit dans mon log combat (en anglais dsl mais bon ça doit etre comprehensible quand meme ^^), les dégats d'affliction n'apparaissent qu'apres mon champ de mort (death field) bien que j'ai posé le dot avant Donc NON, pas le champ de mort avant les dots ! La "rotation" idéale est quelque chose du style: affliction > champ de mort > terreur rampante > eclair de force jusqu'au proc de courroux pour poser l'obscurité ecrasante instante (ou une frappe d'eclair si l'obscurité ecrasante n'est pas up) Pour plus d'info il y a un exellent guide écrit par Nibbon sur la partie anglaise du forum (http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=627405). Bonne chance avec ton sorcier

@Roloukrou En théorie avec un orientation full endu, tes auto-heals sont vraiment boostés donc tu ne pose pas tant que ça de contraintes aux heals. Si ton heal stresse dés que tu perd 10% de pv et te spam du soin alors que tu es toi même en train de caster un éclair ou activé ta surcharge de sabre etc...ca va juste aboutir a de l'overheal. Comme le disait Vaanfanel ca demande juste un peu de communication.

A priori les heals, comme les dps, reçoivent un buff de dégâts quand ils se tiennent dans la zone d'effet de l'abri de l'assassin. Seul l'assassin semble avoir le buff heal. Cela semble en contradiction avec le tooltip du talent cependant mais je n'ai pas eu encore le temps de voir si c’était une erreur, il serait surprenant que 2 tooltips différents aient été créés s'il n'y avait pas effectivement un buff de dégâts ou de heal selon qui se tiens dans la zone.

Bonne initiative cette discussion Personnellement je suis parti sur un template tel que : http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#200rIroddfdGbRZcZbM.3 - Effectivement Frappes Exploitrices n'a aucun interet. Deja avant la 2.0 on ne la prennait que pour atteindre le double electrochoc - Plutôt que de reposer fletrissement juste avant que le debuff prenne fin j'ai encore l'habitude de le relancer dés qu'il est up pour monter mes 3 charges d'ombre acharnée au plus vite. Cependant avec correction et mutilation dans le cycle il est vrai que le cd de l'electrochoc reset vraiment tres souvent et poser fletrissure juste pour maintenir son debuff est probablement suffisant. Juste des habitudes a changer ^^ - Je suis sceptique sur une orientation endu plutot que stat defensive. D'un coté le buff abri d'assassin permet de booster significativement ses auto heal, justifiant une accuumulation d'endu. D'un autre coté le changement sur les generateurs de bouclier (qui, je le rappelle agissent maintenant sur toutes les attaques et plus seulement les attaques directe d'arme) rend les stat bouclier/absorb plus interessantes qu'avant la 2.0 (d'autant que l'on stack un buff absorb maintenant). J'imagine qu'en debut d'extension l'accumulation de stat defensive sera probablement plus interessante et sera au fur et a mesure remplacée par une accumulation d'endu quand le gain de stuff nous emmenera a nouveau taper dans les soft cap. - Je trouve globalement les changements tres plaisants, le gameplay etant beaucoup plus dynamique qu'avant la 2.0 (j'ai particulierement apprecié ne pas lancer une seule frappe de sabre entre les lvl 50 et 55 ^^). - Considerant notre actuelle regeneration de force je ne suis pas exactement ravi de voir que les crafts de generateur de boucliers soit blindés d'alacrité. Par contre avec correction et mutilation maintenant devenues utiles je me demande s'il sera encore interessant de se debarasser de toute les amelio precision. J'ai hate de voir s'accumuler un peu de theorycrafting et j'espere que cette discussion aura du succès

I used http://dulfy.net/2012/01/30/sith-inquisitor-complete-datacron-guide/ Pretty well done and gives the location of all datacrons usefull to inquisitor (willpower of course but also endurance and presence)

Deception has very little to do with the subtlety rogue, it is more like an enhancement shaman with stealth. The class the closest to the wow rogue playstyle would be the operative (having stealth, stun, blind and slow like the wow rogue). A shield is pretty useless unless you are using dark charge, which most often you should not if you're playing deception.

Swtor is not a game where you are one shoting normal mob and two shoting elites. At this level you will struggle against elites with almost any class unless you have a healing companion. Until you have Talos (and even then), i would advise to use Khem. Of course he will probably die against elites, but by then you will have enough time to damage (often even kill) your target while being in the mob back kicking some maul (which you cannot do if you use ashara as you should generate more threat than her)

One other major reason was that madness had a much better force regeneration (meaning you do less saber strikes, so more actual dps). The recent modification done to induction has change that, since you don't have the reduction cost of shock when using lightning charge. So i am not sure if madness is still ahead of deception since the last patch.

You probably don't have any number to prove that since combatlogs are not available to players and simulations are probably inaccurate until we have a better understanding of game mechanisms. On the other hand, bioware has access to those logs and has just buff the marauder (well, this buff might not work as it should for now but the intention is there), which let me suppose that marauder might not have been performing as well as the community might think.

Most of the questions you asked have their answer in the sticky (http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=778). anyway.. 1. crit is better until around 30%. Power is our weaker stat (well apart from fancy stuff like tech power and the like obviously) until you have enough crit, surge and accuracy 2. Dark charge is for tanking. In a pve environment, you should not use it as deception (unless you're doing things like soloing champion mobs or world bosses where the armor buff and self healing coming with dark charge can be handy) 3. Shield are useless, get a focus. And if you see high level dps assassin with some, just consider that being high level does not mean being smart ^^. (by the way, good timing with kick, stun, bump and damage reduction abilities will be far more efficient to improve your survivability)

I played an enhancement shaman as a main in this other MMO that shall not be named ^^ (tried all other class to max lvl too). I could not resist to play another melee dps that also cast lightning. I was also attracted by the inquisitor archetype and quest line. I tried it during the beta and liked its gameplay a lot. I am currently leveling several alts but i think my assassin will stay my main for as long as i play this game.

So you are saying that you spend some time slowly sneaking up to the catwalk just to try to kill one trooper, which you did not even manage to do (bumping him would have been more efficient by the way), instead of, well, trying to actually play huttball (which, surprisingly, involve carrying a ball in the adverse team goal)? That sure make your complains very pertinent >< Huttball in particular is were you can shine as an assassin: - doing taunt and mass taunt on players attacking the ball carrier - using force slow and low slash on players attacking the ball carrier - using guard on the ball carrier. - bumping people in flame and poison or down the catwalk - using low slash to block people in the flame - using force speed and defensive CD if you are the ball carrier - sneaking next to the adverse team goal, going out of stealth to catch the ball and score - etc... DPS is not so important in pvp if you play the game as you should. DPS is mostly a pve concern (and my assassin is doing just fine in operations and flashpoint compare to our mercenaries and sith warrior).

In the group i am running hardmode flashpoint with, the sith warrior has a full set of columi dps gear and something like 4 pieces of the tanking set. I think he has started to give columi gear to his apprentice. On the other hand, our tank (a powertech) has barely dropped anything. That's the problem with random drop, sometime you just are really unlucky.

What's the point of making twice the same post (http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=234775) apart from trolling? These kind of posts start to be really annoying. When i see those "this class sucks" i read "i cannot 2 shot people/mob even though i have no skill like i was doing in some other mmo because i always played the most OP class". We have no clue about dps as we have no dps meter (linking damage in pvp is irrelevant as when you usually toping damage it means you did not play the BG as you should) so complaining about dps is pointless. If you do not like the mechanism of the class (the assassin is not a rogue from wow !) just roll something else instead of asking the class to be changed. I think lot of assassin actually enjoy playing this class and are ok with its performance. To my opinion the only thing that could have some adjustment is our mobility (well and some bug correction, but that is not relevant to class design).