As I appreciate your zeal, its too late People who consider themselves real pvper or people who play games solely to pvp, no longer play this game and they will never play it again. It is almost impossible to understand as a pvper how a major faction of any game gets pretty much ignored in creation and then gets taken away the only chance at any real pvp. In addition never a peep after ilum goes down does anyone mention any solution again This game is barren of real pvpers, so fixing is really a waste of time, but they already knew that

I think you miss the point it isnt $75 vs 1000s of accounts It is potentially millions of ftp players all paying $75 vs loss of 1000s of accounts Most likely the number of people playing in the ftp model will be larger (alot larger) then the sub base. If they can make items that all those people will gladly pay for, they will not hesitate for a second So now 75 million vs 1000s of subs what would you take?

Well alot of the game updates per patch notes etc are not content patches in fact if you look through alot of notes you wont see alot of them. You have to understand we have no reason at all to trust bw at this time, none. The origin of alot of negatiivity (myself included) stems from their lies. They stated previously they would be adding content to the game every month (3+months now we are still waiting for 1). And even at one point they diagramed what the patches were. I forget all of them, but one of them was the rise of the sith masters and a raid against them as well as other hutt based content, none of which we saw. Now we can easily assume there is content they have done right now which they are waiting to release that they are queueing up so in the beginning they can stand by their new word which is new content every six weeks, but again we have no reason to believe it at all If they can release quality content every six weeks, they would never have had to resort to ftp because everyone would still be subbed. One of the major reason for the drop of subs was lack of content.

So what you are basically saying is that every single member in the community should be all sunshine and rainbows and if they aren't they should be censored from the forums? Honestly if you think the 2 things you listed have any determination on the success or failure of this game I don't even know what to tell you. The success (well attempted recovery) of this game is solely determined by how much fluff they can sell on their cash shop. The game success used to be determined by content and quality of play and they failed at that attempt at success, now the bar gets completely lowered down to creating items that people will constantly buy

So people are getting excited for a companion that will basically talk to you four or five times then never say anything else much like the other companions? Everyone knows hes a great character and the fact that he's hilarious but I think he's going to be another great disappointment in the long line

It is without question the biggest flop of all time in MMOs without question. If you actually look at the number of players it started with and what they have now and the fact that they are going ftp within 8months of starting the game. Sure there have been bigger failures, like Vanguard, Failgate London, Failhammer Online, but none that has seen this many subs leave in such a short period of time. They will hold that record for quite a long time too. It is very few games where we will talk about down the line, about how big of a failure it was. And all the fanboys have to say is nonsense like it is the 2nd most played mmo ever and it has netted 130m profit, do you even think before you post lol. How ridiculous

Actually there is a big difference between continually paying and still being subbed I have like10 days left or whatever it is because I was an idiot to do a 6 mo sub So no I am not continually paying I paid once. My server died I stopped playing. Transfers came I played for about another week and haven't been online since Because the server mergers didn't change the game, it just increased the number of people I see, and ftp will do the same I am really sorry to inform all you guys but this game is done. It is always nice to be positive and confident. Hell I was a fanboi for month pre release and through beta and even 4 months in but reality is reality

I think you people are going to be in for a huge disappointment when you realize that people will not be coming back to this game. Do you honestly think a person who's sub expires is going to pony up 15 dollars for a world event? The sub pop in this game is going to continue to fall.

Problem isnt whether or not it will open the game up to more players. That is obviously true, the problem is it doesn't make the game better. A bad game with 1 million people or 2 million people is still a bad game

Actually the reason is that they are pouring everyone's sub money into catering to ftp players As I certainly agree that the majority lacks reasoning. There are some very clear and precise posts that illustrate real examples and real results and real breakdowns of mechanics, but fact is they don't care about doing anything for subscribers. And that is why subscribers are leaving. Now they have to create all these CS speeders and pets for purchase It honestly doesnt matter what form information comes in really. The reality of it really lies in the fact that when a large number of unique posters all post pretty much the same thing, that thing should be looked at, regardless if the post is correct or not, and they are doing nothing

This is really the essence of gw2. The level of skill, situational awareness, and familiarity with what other builds a class can throw at you and alot of abilities are not channelled either. The fact that I know how to beat a maurader in SWtoR because they have a pretty set rotation and I can basically counter it blindfolded now. There is none of that in gw2, you have to be prepared for anything a class can possibly give you at anytime. Even remembering what a certain thief does (he could pop out after that wz and respec) then it is brand new again. You not only have to worry abot your hp, what class you're fighting, what abilities they are using but also conditions. You don't pay attention to conditions youre gonna get killed a ton Plus with probably 2 classes as a small exception you have to move constantly, everything is pretty much done on the fly, tons of ground aoe to worry about etc It is just so much more involved It will take a lot longer to be good at a class and it will take a hell of alot longer to be great in a wz

You know this is the kind of self righteous post that just gives light onto what blind people want other people to believe If I had the time, which I do not care to at all, I could make a post with links and charts and quotes from devs which we all believed, stuff that was coming, stuff that was advertised that wasnt even close to the reality of the game, etc etc Fact is the wise person knows what this is and knows how this game is going to be different, and knows how down the line how much worse this cancer they call cartel shop will do to the game Please get out of the habit of making the popular quote, if you have a sub nothing changes, because that is the most untrue statement you can make But if you havent woken up in the first 7 months chances are you won't wake up now

I cannot agree with you more every thing you said is precisely what the game needed. There were posts in the last 6 months about items that you mentioned. Instead they took the sub money to make a stupid useless legacy system and a ftp model. If you didnt get that stuff with the millions that they made already you wont see it ever. This is going to be more fluff then a game for awhile, then they will start integrating the ptw model

You're kidding right? 3000 based off of posts on a forum? You have to look at how many people are currently unsubscribed as of the middle of August befre the announcment then add in anyone who simply refuses to pay a sub in a ftp etc. The number is alot more then you think However the fact remain the answer to the question on sub total will never ever be answered again. They already skirted it in the meeting and stated well above 500k but under 1mil, which is perhaps the worst possible thing I have ever seen any company do a rnage of 500k lol. If they had close to a million there would be no reason at all not to say we retain 900k subs, but we know that it would be a huge deal if they announced they had 600k subs, so I'll let people make their own assumptions on that But now in these meeting you will not hear we have X number of subs, you will hear about # of accounts

I believe this to be 100% true. In the days of EQ there was no you tube and guild never posted on forums about how to beat a boss. We posted SS of a dead boss to show that we did it fact beat it but that is it. Hell it was probably 6 years in EQ until we used any kind of voice program (vent mumble etc) Fast forward to a game like Rift every mob every dungeon video available with commentary. Where to stand what class should be where. What builds are for the tanks etc etc Build's macro posted in a cut and paste format, so you didnt have to understand why the abilities were in a certain order, hell even what the abilities were even in the macros, all you had to do was cut paste click 12112 over and over So without question today tech allows a ton more people to accomplish things in game that they would never be able to do without it. This is the world of the 2nd gen MMO player, the fast food generation. It is one of the biggest factors of why mmos are increasingly become trivial Swtor otoh you didnt need any videos for their dungeons cause they were so ridiculously easy, but yea for the most part you are absolutely correct