Especially that first one...

In your instance, maybe.

No one wants to pay $15 to get kicked in the knees. It's all a perspective on where that $15 is going, and why you paid it.

I can't believe they're still spinning this; they don't think it has anything to do with the shoddy product, lack of updates, lack of communication, lack of response time to bugs and just plain broken aspects of the game? They were all ego-stroking each other before launch (tattoo's anyone?) about how they were going to change the MMO model (by cloning one already in place ) now the few that are left are ego-stroking each other about how this f2p model is going to save everything. I guess we the players who are still around also haven't learned anything from all of this.

AFAIK they've never said anything about it being in 1.5.

Well, our grass will look better come 1.5.

People could learn a LOT about kiting and LOS in this video if they pay attention. Good stuff.

Crazy.

50 Million monthly players? Yeah, and this games going to compete with WoW.... Oh and Wedbush? Seriously? http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Wedbush-Morgan-RVW1763556.htm http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/07/us-finra-wedbush-idUSBRE8761FF20120807 http://www.mahanyertl.com/mahanyertl/bad-day-for-wedbush-securities/768/ Believe it or not their job is the same as the devs, milk their customers for more money then they deserve.

I'm sorry, I'm just laughing cause the devs could care less about updating PvP. Sure we have a new WZ incoming but that was planned months and months ago...what's to come after that? We've had, what...2 dev posts in three months on these forums? One dev who is no longer at EA/Ware. Sorry, it's cute that you're trying to improve things here through suggestions but you're just pissing in the wind.

I'm of the same opinion. It's not as if having people come check out this game is going to somehow magically fix it. All of it's problems that made it a flop in the first place are still here. Hell, the only reason I'm here is my investment of time and money and the hopes that one day it'll be even marginally better than it is now....foolish, I know.

Face it, they don't care about PvPers. It's the PvEers that will make them some of their investment back when this pile of dog-poo goes F2P.

What hubris, to think that our discussion are going to keep people away from this game when it goes F2P. What is going to keep people away from this game is it's **** design, **** communication, and **** outlook of the game's future. Oh I know...we need another operation which only 15% of the playing population will even give a **** about. Or maybe facial emotions that we CAN'T EVEN SEE.

This game is becoming a money grubbing hamster wheel. As are all the other games you listed short of WoW which can actually make a game that's fun and aren't worried about sucking every penny out of us before the game goes into twilight. Just thinking about the devs who got the tattoo's. Just thinking about all the hype. Just thinking about how EA/Ware somehow convinced themselves that they could compete in the MMO market, a direct competitor to WoW...LOL.

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