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Ninja Looters and all their excuses


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stealthkitty
04.29.2014 , 07:32 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Memo- View Post
Aww come on. :P I just happen to find exaggarations like this funny, that's all. :P No, it's not even close to three years if you played for six months. Under two years then.

On topic, finally, no, I don't think ninja looting has gotten worse. It sucks when it happens, but unless the loot mechanic is changed, it won't go away, since some people will always abuse a situation if it arises.
Given my age, probably older than your mom, you can cut me some slack on remembering exact timing. I am not even sure if it was a solid 6 months that I played to be honest. But in any case, who gives a ****? The point I made was it has been quite a long while since I played this game and only recently came back to play it.

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stealthkitty
04.29.2014 , 07:34 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by megablu View Post
At least they bother making excuses all I've seen is silence also isn't there a we can trade flashpoint loot among the group?(never got to actually use it)
Did they change that? I didn't think you could trade items that were looted in a flashpoint or instance/raid? I probably get the excuses because I put up quite a stink about it when they do ninja loot, and then as a tank I just leave if they keep doing it.

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Memo-
04.29.2014 , 07:38 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by stealthkitty View Post
Did they change that? I didn't think you could trade items that were looted in a flashpoint or instance/raid? I probably get the excuses because I put up quite a stink about it when they do ninja loot, and then as a tank I just leave if they keep doing it.
Yeah, you have 2 hours to trade any Bind-on-Pickup items between the players that were eligible for it.

(And way to go, bringing the age-card into a harmless argument. :P Fine, I'll humour you. How old would you reckon my mother is, then? )
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stealthkitty
04.29.2014 , 07:48 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Memo- View Post
Yeah, you have 2 hours to trade any Bind-on-Pickup items between the players that were eligible for it.

(And way to go, bringing the age-card into a harmless argument. :P Fine, I'll humour you. How old would you reckong my mother is, then? )

Is the "age card" like the 'race card" or something..lmao and I am 50.

You really are enjoying derailing this thread, huh?

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Memo-
04.29.2014 , 07:52 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by stealthkitty View Post
Is the "age card" like the 'race card" or something..lmao and I am 50.

You really are enjoying derailing this thread, huh?
Hey, I answered your question too! So it's kinda 50/50, hanging in the balance.





My mom is 52 tho.
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stealthkitty
04.29.2014 , 08:01 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Memo- View Post
Hey, I answered your question too! So it's kinda 50/50, hanging in the balance.





My mom is 52 tho.

Yes in fact you did! I thank you for that btw. Not sure that will make much difference with ninja looters, they aren't going to hand over loot they want once they pick it up. As I said my only recourse is to boot them. There are some advantages on being a tank and leading a group! =)

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SuperGrunt
04.29.2014 , 08:08 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by stealthkitty View Post
Is the "age card" like the 'race card" or something..lmao and I am 50.

You really are enjoying derailing this thread, huh?
You really should stop feeding the troll.

Also it has to be said, F2P peeps can't trade the loot that they ninja, which is a double edged sword, because they also have limited rolls per week.

Honestly though I don't pay that much attention to who wins what loot, it's way too hard in this game. We should get a /lootWindow like WoW has.

More to the point of this thread though this game NEEDS a much improved Need/Greed system. There should be a restriction on rolling Need on things that are not you Armor Type. IE BH/Trooper shouldn't be able to need on Medium or Light armor. Also you shouldn't be able to roll Need on Rep items with a faction that you are already at Legend with, that's is just greedy as all hell, and annoys the piss out of me, when I need them, and then someone needs the second loot drop of one when I was the only needer before. There needs to be a second tier of Need, for companion needs, and you should have to set a specific companion for those rolls, and just like the main need rolls, if the stuff isn't good for the companion then you can't Need on it. Greed and RE should remain unchanged other than the fact that they should be the only things that are always present when applicable.
My propsed changes to Loot Rules.
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Fidelicatessen
04.29.2014 , 10:03 PM | #18
@stealthkitty: ninja looters suck. Here's what I do:

If I don't need the item that dropped, I will call them on it, briefly explain the loot rules, then watch to see if they do it again. If their response is something along the lines of "you take this game too seriously" or "I need to sell it," I initiate a votekick. If they start behaving, then they just learned how to be better members of the group.

If I DO need the item that dropped, I will call them on it and ask them to trade with me. If they refuse, then it's votekick or quit the group.

Playing a tank and having instapop queues make this strategy quite painless.

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Adaliaya
04.30.2014 , 05:14 AM | #19
My weirdest experience with ninjas: Gunslinger needing on everything. Me as Commando healer. I greed all because I already have better gear. Our Vanguard tank doesn't mind either. We have shadow as DPS and she says no word during whole run.
Run is Athiss and doublesaber drops. Shadow asks if she could need to blade.
Gunslinger says "no, I want it" and Shadow hits Pass ...

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DawnAskham
04.30.2014 , 11:00 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Adaliaya View Post
My weirdest experience with ninjas: Gunslinger needing on everything. Me as Commando healer. I greed all because I already have better gear. Our Vanguard tank doesn't mind either. We have shadow as DPS and she says no word during whole run.
Run is Athiss and doublesaber drops. Shadow asks if she could need to blade.
Gunslinger says "no, I want it" and Shadow hits Pass ...
I've had those groups where someone is being an @sshat and hitting Need on everything while being annoying and bullying to the group and even when tactfully called on it, the others in the group won't vote to kick or will just take the abuse and not say or do a thing.

Maybe they are scared of bullies or something, but me, I don't put up with that kind of crap.

I will kick these types of people as well as I have no problems dropping a group with one of them and adding them to my ignore list (luckily it doesn't happen often or I'd overwhelm my ignore lists, and for the @sshats like the greedy Need everything types, I also add them to all my characters).