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Looks like a big point of TOR has been destroyed...

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Looks like a big point of TOR has been destroyed...

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cjlcw
01.30.2014 , 04:38 PM | #11
I don't have a source, but I read some things that indicate that this is not a typo. So from now on the Sith are not from Korriban, they're from Morriband. It is a replacement that only illustrates a lack of creativity, seriously it's Korriban minus the "k" and plus an "m" and "d." Also, it just plain sounds worse. I'm convinced that this is just a retcon for the lols. Although, I wonder why they didn't pick a more creative name.

I really hope this doesn't kill TOR; it's one of my favorite prices of EU at the moment. I'm really tired of having things I love about the EU retconned by a kids' cartoon, it's really frustrating. And the replacement is never better.

...Beginning of off topic rant about Clone Wars ...

How could covering the Clone Wars in a cart ton aimed for kids be a good idea any way. The actual subject matter is supposed to be dark. It's meant to be a series of brutal battles that kill off many Jedi and spread them very thin. From that point they are able to be slaughtered by their friends whom they fought with for years. The individual battles should be far more brutal than the Galactic Civil War. Instead of a small rebellion, you have two large armies. The battles should have massive casualties and be long, think Jabiim from the Republic comics. Also, the galaxy has been at peace for a thousand years. That would make the war a lot worse because no one has a comparable experiencd. The brutality needs to be apparent, otherwise you are not doing the war justice. You can't do that with this shows target audience. Sure you can show parts to it for that age and portray the war well (like the micro series), but not the majority of the conflict. The original multimedia project captured the right feel; the new show is just cheapening the conflict and destroying a large amount of great stories and characters.

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Jandi
01.30.2014 , 05:00 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post


THIS HAS TO BE A BLOODY TYPO.
It is not. Search your feelings, you know it to be truuu!
Those that demand respect deserve only pity.

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DarthDymond
01.30.2014 , 05:02 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by cjlcw View Post
How could covering the Clone Wars in a cart ton aimed for kids be a good idea any way. The actual subject matter is supposed to be dark. It's meant to be a series of brutal battles that kill off many Jedi and spread them very thin. From that point they are able to be slaughtered by their friends whom they fought with for years. The individual battles should be far more brutal than the Galactic Civil War. Instead of a small rebellion, you have two large armies. The battles should have massive casualties and be long, think Jabiim from the Republic comics. Also, the galaxy has been at peace for a thousand years. That would make the war a lot worse because no one has a comparable experiencd. The brutality needs to be apparent, otherwise you are not doing the war justice. You can't do that with this shows target audience. Sure you can show parts to it for that age and portray the war well (like the micro series), but not the majority of the conflict. The original multimedia project captured the right feel; the new show is just cheapening the conflict.
I have a lot of issues with TCW, mostly in the area of pointless retcons (Asajj Ventress is now half-Zabrak and not a Rattataki at all? What?! Why?!) but one area where I actually give it plenty of credit is in showing that programming for kids doesn't have to be "dumbed down" and can actually tackle serious subject matter.

TCW makes a point to humanize the Clones, even when arguably the whole point of them was to be disposable cannon fodder, so that it matters when you see not just "faceless clone #43" getting shot down during the requisite "cool action scene" , but also see "Echo," the guy they've gotten to know over half a dozen episodes, die tragically in battle. They also have episodes like Heroes on Both Sides that specifically set out to show that war isn't as simple as "good guys" vs "bad guys", and episodes that were willing to challenge the status quo like with Ahsoka's decision towards the Jedi in The Wrong Jedi.

For every goofy, "kid-friendly" episode like The Gungan General, you had legitimately exciting action episodes like Landing at Point Rain, creepy and even disturbing episodes like Monster, and interesting character pieces like The Deserter.

Shows like The Clone Wars and Avatar: The Last Airbender are pretty impressive for how they've demonstrated that a show for children doesn't have to compromise telling a compelling story or engaging with complex issues and characters.
Given the choice whether to rule a corrupt and failing empire or to challenge the fates for another throw, a better throw, against one's destiny, what was a king to do?
But does one ever truly have a choice? One can only match, move by move, the machinations of fate, and thus defy the tyrannous stars.
~Kain

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Beniboybling
01.30.2014 , 05:12 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by cjlcw View Post
I don't have a source, but I read some things that indicate that this is not a typo. So from now on the Sith are not from Korriban, they're from Morriband. It is a replacement that only illustrates a lack of creativity, seriously it's Korriban minus the "k" and plus an "m" and "d." Also, it just plain sounds worse. I'm convinced that this is just a retcon for the lols. Although, I wonder why they didn't pick a more creative name.
Its a typo. Period.

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Beniboybling
01.30.2014 , 05:14 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDymond;7161423For every goofy, "kid-friendly" episode like [I
The Gungan General[/I], you had legitimately exciting action episodes like Landing at Point Rain, creepy and even disturbing episodes like Monster, and interesting character pieces like The Deserter.
Then they ramp it up to awesome with things like The Lawless and They Jedi Who Knew Too Much. Great episodes.

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Beniboybling
01.30.2014 , 05:15 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Jandi View Post
It is not. Search your feelings, you know it to be truuu!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE

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cjlcw
01.30.2014 , 05:27 PM | #17
It really is. There's nothing we can do.

Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDymond View Post
I have a lot of issues with TCW, mostly in the area of pointless retcons (Asajj Ventress is now half-Zabrak and not a Rattataki at all? What?! Why?!) but one area where I actually give it plenty of credit is in showing that programming for kids doesn't have to be "dumbed down" and can actually tackle serious subject matter.

TCW makes a point to humanize the Clones, even when arguably the whole point of them was to be disposable cannon fodder, so that it matters when you see not just "faceless clone #43" getting shot down during the requisite "cool action scene" , but also see "Echo," the guy they've gotten to know over half a dozen episodes, die tragically in battle. They also have episodes like Heroes on Both Sides that specifically set out to show that war isn't as simple as "good guys" vs "bad guys", and episodes that were willing to challenge the status quo like with Ahsoka's decision towards the Jedi in The Wrong Jedi.

For every goofy, "kid-friendly" episode like The Gungan General, you had legitimately exciting action episodes like Landing at Point Rain, creepy and even disturbing episodes like Monster, and interesting character pieces like The Deserter.

Shows like The Clone Wars and Avatar: The Last Airbender are pretty impressive for how they've demonstrated that a show for children doesn't have to compromise telling a compelling story or engaging with complex issues and characters.
I know, but I wish it was even darker. I really did enjoy certain episodes, but on a whole it doesn't fit with how I precieve the Clone Wars. My opinion may also be affected because of another thing I heard. Apparento the show was aiming at potrayong the Clones as programmed tocarry out order 66; like they had no free will in the matter. And then the retcons really spoil the show for me. Greivous was turned into the typical cartoon villain (wanted to be a hero but couldn't speak now he kills them), Darth Maul surviving, Obi-Wan and Satine, Barriss Offee, Assajj Ventress, Ahsoka, Anakin's knighting, and now this. Those things really spoil the show for me. Although, I do agree that they do a good job with the show and some of the episodes are truly great (I liked most of the ones I have watched) it's just I'm not a fan of the show on a whole.

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JattaGin
01.30.2014 , 05:38 PM | #18
Wait... one of the lousiest television channels in the lousy television country Germany gets to air the world premier of the "season 6" of TCW? How did that happen?

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Jandi
01.30.2014 , 05:45 PM | #19
Those that demand respect deserve only pity.

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DarthVitrial
01.30.2014 , 08:01 PM | #20
The "homeworld" of the Sith has been said to be both Korriban and Ziost...isn't it possible that Morriband is just another planet in that system that the Sith may have migrated to/from?

EDIT: According to the preview for Clone Wars season 6:
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Guided by the Force, Yoda travels to the heart of the galaxy. There, on the planet where he finds the origin of the Force, he must face difficult trials. Only upon passing them will the Sages deem him worthy of learning the deepest mysteries of the Force....
Please no.