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BreakingNews
10.06.2013 , 03:34 AM | #21
I think bioware broke pyro, 9 min ***** and giggles parse and sustained 3300 dps throughout. 2/8/36

Same gear as my AMR, new things that I got are a DF SA relic, 78 OH, 4 mods, 3 armorings, and an oriconian implant

Link trimmed to highest point within the 9 mins. 3336.08 DPS

EDIT: and then 5 mins later...... 3369.45 DPS
This spec is ridiculous now
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TLAkai
10.06.2013 , 11:29 AM | #22
Pyro will be the new OP

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odawgg
10.06.2013 , 11:40 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by BreakingNews View Post
I think bioware broke pyro, 9 min ***** and giggles parse and sustained 3300 dps throughout. 2/8/36

Same gear as my AMR, new things that I got are a DF SA relic, 78 OH, 4 mods, 3 armorings, and an oriconian implant

Link trimmed to highest point within the 9 mins. 3336.08 DPS

EDIT: and then 5 mins later...... 3369.45 DPS
This spec is ridiculous now
I guess I'll spill the beans on this before all the mercs get too excited, the newly designed dual wielded Rail Shot is a bit broken, both the MH and OH hits will vent 8 heat barring any misses Falver may want to asterisk or hold off on posting to leaderboard as you wish as a hot fix is sure to come

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Shakell
10.06.2013 , 11:58 AM | #24
I was wondering how you used so few Rapid Shots in your parse, I remember looking at that the first time and going: "wow, that's barely any rapid shots." It's safe to say that Commando is NOT getting the same frills as Merc right now.
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KeyboardNinja
10.06.2013 , 11:10 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by odawgg View Post
I guess I'll spill the beans on this before all the mercs get too excited, the newly designed dual wielded Rail Shot is a bit broken, both the MH and OH hits will vent 8 heat barring any misses Falver may want to asterisk or hold off on posting to leaderboard as you wish as a hot fix is sure to come
Oh that is so brokenů

It's like the old "speed shot procs aimed shot more often than series of shots procs ambush", but worse due to the way it affects energy. Holy cow. Commandos are definitely not affected, as can be verified in the logs. So, daharel's parse is fair, as would be any other assault parse. Pyro of both ACs seems quite broken though.
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KTap
10.07.2013 , 05:02 PM | #26
I know these numbers don't mean much in the grand scheme of things, but I was wondering why classes without armor debuffs can't have someone with one put it on a dummy for a parse? For most operations I'd say the majority of groups have at least 1 person who can armor debuff.

Maybe another 'honorable mention' type section for dps with armor debuff or something?

I think this would be more of a fair representation of how classes compare to each other in an actual boss fight (assuming you could just stand there the entire time).

Just my 2 cents

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THoK-Zeus
10.07.2013 , 05:15 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by KTap View Post
I know these numbers don't mean much in the grand scheme of things, but I was wondering why classes without armor debuffs can't have someone with one put it on a dummy for a parse? For most operations I'd say the majority of groups have at least 1 person who can armor debuff.

Maybe another 'honorable mention' type section for dps with armor debuff or something?

I think this would be more of a fair representation of how classes compare to each other in an actual boss fight (assuming you could just stand there the entire time).

Just my 2 cents
Therefore we have already these 2 threads :
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=679360
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=683087

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KTap
10.07.2013 , 05:27 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by THoK-Zeus View Post
Those are nice, but I'm specifically talking about this thread, since it seems to be the one most people use to compare pve dps potential (I didn't even know those threads existed until recently, and he says in the op that he doesn't update it regularly).

I just think it would be nice to have a more accurate representation of what our dps would be in a normal pve situation.

This would also lessen the gap for a lot of specs and make this whole thread more fun/competitive, imo.

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Falver
10.07.2013 , 05:40 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by KTap View Post
Those are nice, but I'm specifically talking about this thread, since it seems to be the one most people use to compare pve dps potential (I didn't even know they existed until recently).

I just think it would be nice to have a more accurate representation of what our dps would be in a normal pve situation.

This would also lessen the gap for a lot of specs and make this whole thread more fun/competitive, imo.
It is something I've thought about and something I would like to fairly apply. Fairly is the operative word though. If I can think of a way to make this happen and be able to ensure that cheating isn't happening, you can expect this change to happen. The only thing I can think of currently is to force people to submit recordings of the parse but I already think I'm asking too much already with the AMR profiles (they do take some time to build). Otherwise, my time is already often spent doing arbitrary parse verifying.

The reason why I won't create another honorable mentions sort of post is simply because I don't like having to juggle too many posts for the same thread. I could be convinced otherwise but currently, meh.

Pitch me some ideas on how to present it and regulate it, and if I like one enough I'll certainly incorporate it into the thread.
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KTap
10.07.2013 , 05:59 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Falver View Post
It is something I've thought about and something I would like to fairly apply. Fairly is the operative word though. If I can think of a way to make this happen and be able to ensure that cheating isn't happening, you can expect this change to happen. The only thing I can think of currently is to force people to submit recordings of the parse but I already think I'm asking too much already with the AMR profiles (they do take some time to build). Otherwise, my time is already often spent doing arbitrary parse verifying.

The reason why I won't create another honorable mentions sort of post is simply because I don't like having to juggle too many posts for the same thread. I could be convinced otherwise but currently, meh.

Pitch me some ideas on how to present it and regulate it, and if I like one enough I'll certainly incorporate it into the thread.
Just curious, assuming you did incorporate armor debuffs in some way, how would someone cheat in a way they already cannot?

As for being fair, just adding an armor debuff will never be totally fair to the classes with executes and damage bonuses below 30%, but at least it would be some type of damage increase for them to have an armor debuff. My main concern currently is the gap in dps for a lot of specs (relating to this thread, obviously most people know that certain classes perform better in an actual pve fight, but it is nice to have a visual comparison of them nonetheless).

I realize that some classes will still be behind others, but this would allow for less of an overall gap, which is never a bad thing in a competitive type thread like this.