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Why The Light Side is More Powerful

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Why The Light Side is More Powerful

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SithEBM
07.13.2013 , 10:14 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Aeneas_Falco View Post
Selflessness trumps ruthless self-interest.

The Sith also fear death, while the Jedi do not.
Wasn't Batman weak because he didn't fear death?

"How can you move faster than possible, fight longer than possible without the most powerful impulse of the spirit: the fear of death."

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LadyKulvax
07.13.2013 , 10:24 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Girdeux View Post
GL said in the AOTC commentary that the dark side is more powerful
No he said in relevance to Anakin's situation that the Dark Side would be more powerful, for him.
"The Dark Jedi are in many ways more dangerous than the Sith."
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Girdeux
07.13.2013 , 08:44 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
No he said in relevance to Anakin's situation that the Dark Side would be more powerful, for him.
Thats where I disagree with you.

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LadyKulvax
07.14.2013 , 05:13 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Girdeux View Post
Thats where I disagree with you.
Agree or not the AOTC commentary was very precise in it's context.
"The Dark Jedi are in many ways more dangerous than the Sith."
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Girdeux
07.14.2013 , 06:47 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
Agree or not the AOTC commentary was very precise in it's context.
And so were the movies in which the dark side is more powerful. Luke even needs to call on the dark side to beat Vader.

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SithKoriandr
07.14.2013 , 07:00 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Girdeux View Post
And so were the movies in which the dark side is more powerful. Luke even needs to call on the dark side to beat Vader.
Because the Dark Side is the quicker route to power. You had Luke, while likely a natural with the Force, the not as well trained Jedi against the well trained former Jedi now Sith.

Anakin trained in the force sense he was 10. Luke, over 18, and didn't even realize he had the ability to use the Force. Anakin at least knew there was something more to him when he was younger.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more...than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so *********** what." - Stephen Fry

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Girdeux
07.14.2013 , 07:21 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by SithKoriandr View Post
Because the Dark Side is the quicker route to power. You had Luke, while likely a natural with the Force, the not as well trained Jedi against the well trained former Jedi now Sith.

Anakin trained in the force sense he was 10. Luke, over 18, and didn't even realize he had the ability to use the Force. Anakin at least knew there was something more to him when he was younger.
Yes. its pretty well certain that Luke beat Vader to using the dark side.

"He rushed to his father with a frenzy he'd never known.
Nor had Vader. The gladiators battled fiercely, sparks
flying from the clash of their radiant weapons, but it was
soon evident that the advantage was all Luke's. And he was
pressing it. They locked swords, body to body. When Luke
pushed Vader back to break the clinch, the Dark Lord hit his
head on an over-hanging beam in the cramped space. He
stumbled backward even farther, out of the low-hanging area.
Luke pursued him relentlessly.

blow upon blow, Luke forced Vader to retreat - back, onto
the bridge that crossed the vast, seemingly bottomless shaft
to the power core. Each stroke of Luke's saber pummeled
Vader, like accusations, like screams, like shards of hate.

The Dark Lord was driven to his knees. He raised his blade
to block yet another onslaught - and Luke slashed Vader's
right hand off at the wrist."

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Dismayven
07.14.2013 , 07:25 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
Saying the Light is more powerful than the Dark or vice versa is the same thing as saying the Force is more powerful than the Force.

Here are the main differences:

Dark Side pros: Quicker power, more aggressive and far more applicable against others.
Light Side pros: Self-control, emotional control, ability to achieve oneness with the force, true immortality.
Dark Side cons: Lack of self-control, emotionally unbalanced, inability to become truly immortal.
Light Side cons: Growth in ability and power takes a lot longer.
wrong, dark side force users can become blue glowy ghosts also....

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LadyKulvax
07.14.2013 , 07:37 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Dismayven View Post
wrong, dark side force users can become blue glowy ghosts also....
False, they can become Sith spirits that hang around places for a long while, unless said spirits are redeemed like Ajunta Pall was by Revan. it is inevitable for you to go to the void of the dark side and believe me after what Caedus said, it isn't a very nice holiday resort.
"The Dark Jedi are in many ways more dangerous than the Sith."
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Girdeux
07.14.2013 , 07:51 AM | #30
More on Luke using the dark side to become more powerful. ROTJ Novel

"Luke stood above him, at the top of the staircase, heady with his own power. It was in his hands, now, he knew it was: he could take Vader. Take his blade, take his life. Take his place at the Emperor's side. Yes, even that. Luke didn't bury the thought, this time; he gloried in it. He engorged himself with its juices, felt its power tingle his cheeks. It made him feverish, this thought, with lust so overpowering as to totally obliterate all other considerations.

He had the power; the choice was his.

And then another thought emerged, slowly compulsive as an ardent lover: he could destroy the Emperor, too. Destroy them both, and rule the galaxy. Avenge and conquer.
It was a profound moment for Luke. Dizzying. Yet he did not swoon. Nor did he recoil.
He took one step forward.

For the first time, the thought entered Vader's consciousness that his son might best him. He was astounded by the strength Luke had acquired since their last duel, in the Cloud City - not to mention the boy's timing, which was honed to a thought's-breadth. This was an unexpected circumstance. Unexpected and unwelcome. Vader felt humiliation crawling in on the tail of his first reaction, which was surprise, and his second, which was fear. And then the edge of the humiliation curled up, to reveal bald anger. And now, he wanted revenge."


even the emperor was scared of Luke using the dark side
The Emperor watched Luke's face with cunning. "I'm sure Yoda taught you to use the Force with great skill."

The taunt had the desired effect - Luke's face flushed, his muscles flexed.

He saw the Emperor actually lick his lips at the sight of Luke's reaction. Lick his lips and laugh from the bottom of his throat, from the bottom of his soul.

Luke paused, for he saw something else, as well; something he hadn't seen before in the Emperor. Fear.

Luke saw fear in the Emperor - fear of Luke. Fear of Luke's power, fear that this power could be turned on him - on the Emperor - in the same way that Vader had turned it on Obi-Wan Kenobi. Luke saw this fear in the Emperor - and he knew, now, the odds had shifted slightly. He had glimpsed the Emperor's nakedest self.

With sudden absolute calm, Luke stood upright. He stared directly into the malign ruler's hood.

Palpatine said nothing for a few moments, returning the young Jedi's gaze, assessing his strengths and weaknesses. He sat back at last, pleased with this first confrontation. "I look forward to completing your training, young Skywalker. In time, you will call me Master."


And this is why the dark side trumps the light.