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Here's the problem with making Treek available through the Cartel Market...

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Here's the problem with making Treek available through the Cartel Market...

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DAMossimo
07.06.2013 , 11:23 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Reno_Tarshil View Post
But everything on the legacy can be bought with cc. You act like this is the first thing ever to happen.
Uhm. No. I only meant to state that this little ewok means nothing to some people (I could care less about her).

Don't put words in my mouth thanks.

Yes, the legacy system was sold out long ago - I was referring to rare mounts & gear only obtainable from endgame, raid-only pets, etc... - stuff that can't be bought with CC.

The fact that the ewok can be bought for CC means there is essentially no achievement to be had, and that's fine. If people want it they can buy it. Just don't fool yourself into thinking you have "achieved" anything by getting it. It's just fluff.

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Andryah
07.06.2013 , 11:24 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by DAMossimo View Post
Just don't fool yourself into thinking you have "achieved" anything by getting it. It's just fluff.
Keyword: fluff.

Fluff should NEVER be achievement based IMO. Nor should QoL perks.
I'm back..... in advance of KotFE.

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DAMossimo
07.06.2013 , 11:24 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Here is the interesting part: NOWHERE did Bioware, at any time, in any way, indicate/promote/market Treek as a player effort based achievement.

There is a minority interest of players that is pretending Treek should be an achievement.. so that they can complain that Treek is not an achievement.

HK was put behind an active multi-part time consuming quest chain that even required skirting PvP and doing a group instance. HK is a companion that is defined by it's implementation as an effort achievement. Treek is clearly defined as fun and enjoyment and to be readily accessible to all players.

Common sense people.
Pretty sure that's what I said but go ahead and insinuate whatever meaning you wish to assign to my post.

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Hockaday
07.06.2013 , 11:25 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Machine-Elf View Post
It's boring. There's virtually zero sense of achievement to be gained from a Cartel Market purchase. Personally, I'll be grinding my way to Legacy Level 40 (I'm a meager 10) and one million credits requirement, not because I don't have the disposable income to buy her, but simply because it's more FUN!

I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this sentiment. And if other impulse buyers (which I have no qualms in admitting to being) like me are starting to think along the same lines, then BioWare should be exceedingly worried.
1 milion credits is -literally- nothing. As for the level 40 rank, I have a different take on it that I'm copying from someone else. I was it was CC or 40 rank or 1 million creds. I have all 3, I'd rather not depart with either CC or Creds...but luckily Treek is a healer, none of my toons roll with healers....
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Andryah
07.06.2013 , 11:27 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by DAMossimo View Post
Pretty sure that's what I said but go ahead and insinuate whatever meaning you wish to assign to my post.
You mistake my comment to be directed to you personally.

You did state the same thing.. but what you were completely vague about was how you felt about it...leaving everyone to try to figure out what you meant.. and in fact why you ended up clarifying in a subsequent post.

I commented on your comment, to inject clarity about the fact that Treek is indeed nothing to do with effort based achievement. The minority interest group does not get this and will not admit it. They continue to insist Bioware fix it and make it an effort achievement (most commonly by declaring that Bioware must put the Legacy 40 on the CC unlock).
I'm back..... in advance of KotFE.

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Tachenko_Yuri
07.06.2013 , 11:29 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I agree.

But we all know that once Treek goes live.. Treek will be the complaint_de_jour for patch week.
Thread like this very one prove that we don't even need to wait for the patch to come around

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DAMossimo
07.06.2013 , 11:29 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
You mistake my comment to be directed to you personally.

You did state the same thing.. but what you were completely vague about was how you felt about it...leaving everyone to try to figure out what you meant.. and in fact why you ended up clarifying in a subsequent post.

I commented on your comment, to inject clarity about the fact that Treek is indeed nothing to do with effort based achievement.
Well good to know, I was thinking you were trolling me for a minute there.

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branmakmuffin
07.06.2013 , 11:35 AM | #18
Here's the problem with making Treek available for purchase with CC without the legacy requirement:

<chirp, chirp>, <chirp, chirp>

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Machine-Elf
07.06.2013 , 11:35 AM | #19
I guess my overriding criticism of, not just Treek, but the Cartel Market in general, is that it's beginning to feel like cheating. It's as if the more achievement-based free-to-play model (unlock ____ item for ____ amount after reaching Legacy Level _____) were the correct way of playing the game, and the subscription model were a cheap, Game Genie alternative.

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BadOrb
07.06.2013 , 11:42 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I agree.

But we all know that once Treek goes live.. Treek will be the complaint_de_jour for patch week. Too short, too furry, not enough customization, don't like his gear, Treek crapped on my boots!, etc. etc.

Honestly, I don't see that much broad based backlash about Treek. I do see the same handful of players running heavy on the hamster-wheel of faux indignation. But this is true for everything about the game for the most part.
Oops I spelt her name wrong and you called her a he , we better be careful as she is psychotic. What I want to know is how good a tank she will be , would love to see an Ewok kicking a** as it were. sadly mine will probably replace quinn as a healer.

She isn't psychotic enough! She doesn't speak basic! The lore is all wrong!

Be all and end all psychotic fluff is psychotic fluff.

Cheers,

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