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Here's the problem with making Treek available through the Cartel Market...

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Here's the problem with making Treek available through the Cartel Market...

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Machine-Elf
07.06.2013 , 11:02 AM | #1
It's boring. There's virtually zero sense of achievement to be gained from a Cartel Market purchase. Personally, I'll be grinding my way to Legacy Level 40 (I'm a meager 10) and one million credits requirement, not because I don't have the disposable income to buy her, but simply because it's more FUN!

I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this sentiment. And if other impulse buyers (which I have no qualms in admitting to being) like me are starting to think along the same lines, then BioWare should be exceedingly worried.

I guess my overriding criticism of -- not just Treek, but the Cartel Market in general -- is that it's beginning to feel like cheating. It's as if the more achievement-based free-to-play model (unlock ____ item for ____ amount after reaching Legacy Level _____) is the correct way of playing the game, and the subscription model a cheap Game Genie alternative.

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Andryah
07.06.2013 , 11:08 AM | #2
I do not share your sentiment.

Treek is a great addition to the game. It's something many players like, and no player is forced to acquire it or use it if they don't like it. It is amazing to me how much so many players detest choice. Actually.. they don't detest it, they just don't want anyone but themselves to have choice.

And the way they are adding it to the game is consistent with everything they have been doing for the last 8 months.

Yeah.. some people don't like the CM, cartel coins, etc. etc. But so what. Some people, in every MMO, don't like something.
Forum disputatio ------> est completum ineptias.

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DAMossimo
07.06.2013 , 11:10 AM | #3
For me, there's zero sense of achievement because it can be bought by anyone with CC, so it is pointless to spend effort to obtain it via the legacy route or with CC for that matter.

I'll stick to working towards obtaining things in game that can't be bought with the almighty dollar and let the CM people blow thier money on the fluff stuff that means nothing to me.

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Reno_Tarshil
07.06.2013 , 11:14 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by DAMossimo View Post
For me, there's zero sense of achievement because it can be bought by anyone with CC, so it is pointless to spend effort to obtain it via the legacy route or with CC for that matter.

I'll stick to working towards obtaining things in game that can't be bought with the almighty dollar and let the CM people blow thier money on the fluff stuff that means nothing to me.
But everything on the legacy can be bought with cc. You act like this is the first thing ever to happen.

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Andryah
07.06.2013 , 11:15 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by DAMossimo View Post
For me, there's zero sense of achievement because it can be bought by anyone with CC, so it is pointless to spend effort to obtain it via the legacy route or with CC for that matter.
Here is the interesting part: NOWHERE did Bioware, at any time, in any way, indicate/promote/market Treek as a player effort based achievement.

There is a minority interest of players that is pretending Treek should be an achievement.. so that they can complain that Treek is not an achievement.

HK was put behind an active multi-part time consuming quest chain that even required skirting PvP and doing a group instance. HK is a companion that is defined by it's implementation as an effort achievement. Treek is clearly defined as fun and enjoyment and to be readily accessible to all players.

Common sense people.
Forum disputatio ------> est completum ineptias.

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BadOrb
07.06.2013 , 11:16 AM | #6
Really amazed how popular the Teek Ewok is. I'm not sure how much effort and time it has taken them to create Teek but , it seems they want some revenue from her and so i don't mind the methods they have described to purchase her. Mind you with the backlash of all this I highly doubt the next companion will be sold this way , we shall see.

Cheers ,

BadOrb.
'Ah you think micro transactions are your ally ? The DLC betrays you because it belongs to me , when your home world is monetized , you have my permission to buy'.
"Oh goody. Lord Douchebag McFuzzlebunny can now be related to me if he see's my legacy name and decides he likes it." quote from Selvec 09/06/12

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DewyMossEmpire
07.06.2013 , 11:19 AM | #7
Obvious troll post is obvious. There have already been a hundred posts about this that & the other thing. If you want to add in your two cents do it there, we don't need more posts about things that are already being discussed.

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Machine-Elf
07.06.2013 , 11:20 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I do not share your sentiment.

Treek is a great addition to the game. It's something many players like, and no player is forced to acquire it or use it if they don't like it. It is amazing to me how much so many players detest choice. Actually.. they don't detest it, they just don't want anyone but themselves to have choice.

And the way they are adding it to the game is consistent with everything they have been doing for the last 8 months.

Yeah.. some people don't like the CM, cartel coins, etc. etc. But so what. Some people, in every MMO, don't like something.
Oh don't get me wrong, I love Treek. I think she's a fantastic addition to the game (she was originally intended to be included as a part of the ROTHC expansion, by the way). I'm not even against the idea of buying her with Cartel coins, provided the Legacy Level 40 requirement still stood. In fact, I would probably have done so myself (buying her, that is) if that had been the case.

It's just this complete absence of a barrier of entry, this idea of being able to obtain gains for zero effort, all in the name of the mighty $ sign, that irks me, and I predict Cartel Market sales to take a considerable dip if BioWare persists on this course.

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Izorii
07.06.2013 , 11:23 AM | #9
I don't know if I want Treek as a companion. However I am sure I will buy here just for the story arc. That said I have not decided if I will use in game credits or cartel coins. I guess it depends on how many coins it costs, personally I would have liked it if Treek came free at legacy 40 not costing a million credits. I also suspect that the cartel coin cost will be very low to encourage people to buy Treek this way than using in game credits so we spend cash on cartel coins not save up in the in game credits. Personally I hope Treek costs sufficient cartel coins to make the legacy purchase seem like a good idea.

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Andryah
07.06.2013 , 11:23 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by BadOrb View Post
Really amazed how popular the Teek Ewok is. I'm not sure how much effort and time it has taken them to create Teek but , it seems they want some revenue from her and so i don't mind the methods they have described to purchase her.
I agree.

But we all know that once Treek goes live.. Treek will be the complaint_de_jour for patch week. Too short, too furry, not enough customization, don't like his gear, Treek crapped on my boots!, etc. etc.

Quote: Originally Posted by BadOrb View Post
Mind you with the backlash of all this I highly doubt the next companion will be sold this way , we shall see.
Honestly, I don't see that much broad based backlash about Treek. I do see the same handful of players running heavy on the hamster-wheel of faux indignation. But this is true for everything about the game for the most part.
Forum disputatio ------> est completum ineptias.