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Very confused on subs now.


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branmakmuffin
07.05.2013 , 05:09 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Sorenia View Post
The point is that if there's no reason to sub the game is going to devolve into something bad. Full F2P games thrive on tiny updates and gambling boxes. If people like me unsub then the game won't even be worth playing long term.
Oh, yeah, if you unsub the game is doomed.

The game will one day die, with or without you.

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Sorenia
07.05.2013 , 05:16 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by TheNahash View Post
But that's the thing: there are reasons to sub.
This isn't selection bias. If you want to sub for subbing sake that's fine. The reality is that they've removed all the reasons to sub period.

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Cyberwoman
07.05.2013 , 05:26 PM | #13
As far as I am aware, doesn't subscribing give you unlimited warzones, flashpoints, access to all levels of armor, full GTN, 12 character slots and complimentary coins? For me, having all that unlocked is reason enough for me to sub, along with the fact that I like to support my favorite MMO.
"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes." The Fourth Doctor, Doctor Who
Chinbu, Hekit, Shieye, Hunk'a, Bi'song, Paign'ton, Ga'vin, Char-bi
Griffa, Ga'athei, Valamist , V'woolf, Equ'mar, No'lara, Vampora

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Sorenia
07.05.2013 , 05:28 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Cyberwoman View Post
As far as I am aware, doesn't subscribing give you unlimited warzones, flashpoints, access to all levels of armor, full GTN, 12 character slots and complimentary coins? For me, having all that unlocked is reason enough for me to sub, along with the fact that I like to support my favorite MMO.
You can get all that off the GTN now for cheap. About 300~400k a month. The equivalent of $5 in CC coins.

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Cyberwoman
07.05.2013 , 05:45 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Sorenia View Post
You can get all that off the GTN now for cheap. About 300~400k a month. The equivalent of $5 in CC coins.
Call me lazy if you will, but I'm just not too keen on having to unlock such features each week (Its taking me ages just to farm enough credits for some pink armor!) and as I said, I like to support my favorite MMO.

Just out of curiosity, for those asking for more benefits, what would you like as an extra insensitive? Personally speaking, I cant really think of much else that I would want.
"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes." The Fourth Doctor, Doctor Who
Chinbu, Hekit, Shieye, Hunk'a, Bi'song, Paign'ton, Ga'vin, Char-bi
Griffa, Ga'athei, Valamist , V'woolf, Equ'mar, No'lara, Vampora

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Andryah
07.05.2013 , 06:30 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Sorenia View Post
Ok so we know the new "appreciation" is a one time 500CC. If that's it then what exactly is the advantage of subbing? Looking at the GTN I can bypass every restriction for a mere 50k credits each. Even if I hate farming I'm far better off canceling and spending a few bucks on the market to sell stuff for credits in game.

So what gives Bioware? I don't really care about "appreciation". I want some product to buy. I'll gladly spend $50 or more a month on this game. Have you become so blinded by gambling boxes that you forgot people will spend money on other things?
Pssst! http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=658127
Forum disputatio ------> est completum ineptias.

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WildbloodX
07.05.2013 , 06:57 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Cyberwoman View Post
Call me lazy if you will, but I'm just not too keen on having to unlock such features each week (Its taking me ages just to farm enough credits for some pink armor!) and as I said, I like to support my favorite MMO.

Just out of curiosity, for those asking for more benefits, what would you like as an extra insensitive? Personally speaking, I cant really think of much else that I would want.
1. Exclusive gear for one - If I am preferred and unlock the ability to equip artifact gear, then I can access all the gear a sub can.
2. Titles - Unique title that can be unlocked just for subscribers.
3. Speaders and Fluff - Unique Speeders and other fluff items (unique pets etc.) that can only be unlocked as a sub.
4. Mods - Custom mods, Hilts, crystals, and augments with improved stats at endgame only unlock able or greed/needable by subs
5. Character Customizations - Unique hair, tattoos, jewerly, body types etc only usable by subs.

I could probably go on if I wanted to continue to summon the muse, but it's not that hard to see how EAware could add more incentives and make subs feel appreciated while possible increasing subs from f3pers

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Pietrastor
07.05.2013 , 07:08 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by WildbloodX View Post
4. Mods - Custom mods, Hilts, crystals, and augments with improved stats at endgame only unlock able or
So, P2W?

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JimG
07.05.2013 , 07:30 PM | #19
Oh look, a new and interesting topic. If you don't feel your sub is worth it, then quit subbing. Nobody needs to "convince" you there is a benefit to subbing. It's up to everyone to make their own cost/benefit analysis.

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WildbloodX
07.05.2013 , 07:49 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Pietrastor View Post
So, P2W?
Um, P2W would mean that the CM had items other then fluff. Subscriptions are not P2W, they are S2W, and frankly, when you are dealing with f2p /s2p systems then yes s2w would be ideal for both company and subscribers. Additionally, I never said we should get the above list for free, simply available if subers put the work in to get the items like, I don’t know,,, MMOs..

I am happy with my subscription thus the reason I still pay for it, however I am simply commenting and adding constructive feedback / opinion related to this post. So please, no need to troll with comments like “If you don’t like your sub then unusub” crockamamie,, yes I said crockamamie.