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Priority Targets missions are now worthless at lower levels

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Priority Targets missions are now worthless at lower levels

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Dracalamar
04.02.2013 , 08:59 AM | #1
Posting this thread will probably compound the problem even more, but at the same time may open the devs eyes to fix it or at least make it not profitable for the few that know only.

The World Bosses mainly drop loot now that is Binds on Equip rather than Binds on Pickup. I am sure this was so that when a boss drops loot that no one in party can use at least it could be given to a guild mate or sold to someone that can use it.

Problem now is, the lower level WBs can be soloed by 50s easily. There have been several times I have seen a WB up...and this is mainly on the Republic side...and have tried to do a party form in general chat and a 50 runs in and kills it, won't even accept party invites, even telling them you just what the mission credit, because of their greed to get the items and sell them on the GTN.

So now we have the dilemma of no one will ever get credit for a lower end Priority Targets mission unless they in a huge guild that always has several members on or a 50 to run to them and help, or face it, you aren't getting credit for it until is is well into gray and you can solo it yourself.

Possible fixes:
1) Make the equipment back to Binds on Pickup...if want make it Binds to Legacy on Pickup if want to make it more usable by those that kill the thing.
2) Level restrictions on killing WBs that you need to be within 10 levels of it or are ineligible to attack it.
3) Minimum group level. Say you have to have a full party at least to attack it, or you are ineligible to attack.

4th fix...Just get rid of Priority Targets missions as they have become worthless at the lower levels.

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Never_Hesitate
04.02.2013 , 09:08 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Dracalamar View Post
Possible fixes:
1) Make the equipment back to Binds on Pickup...if want make it Binds to Legacy on Pickup if want to make it more usable by those that kill the thing.
2) Level restrictions on killing WBs that you need to be within 10 levels of it or are ineligible to attack it.
3) Minimum group level. Say you have to have a full party at least to attack it, or you are ineligible to attack.
All this fixes aren't very well thought through.

Here is a fix that works better:
redesign the bosses so that you need at least 5 people to complete it (bossmechanics that otherwise one-shot even lvl 50ies)
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Seireeni
04.02.2013 , 09:10 AM | #3
I love doing world bosses, I always join groups even though I'm not even doing the mission. Especially the Coruscant one, proximity lazer makes it actually exiting.

Level restriction wouldn't be good, how about high level people who want to help a wb group? Some kind of group size resteriction could be nice, but the size of the group could be a problem. I mean, what if I want to do a wb at a time where there just are not a lot of people online at all? Now you can do several wbs with smaller groups if you just have level 50 on your group.

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tahoeWolverine
04.02.2013 , 09:14 AM | #4
Hmm so you have failed to provide any valid reasons the these missions are worthless at low levels. The provide loot, xp, and codex...what more do you need? The reality is that, yes, it can be annoying when 50s kill a WB, but it's their kill as much as yours. Sure, maybe there should be better systems in place to make things more orderly, but it's working just fine as it is. 50s have almost no incentive to go and kill these WBs (codex's only really), so they won't be compelled to do so. If a 50 is farming this for the loot, they're very stupid.

Your best bet to getting these completed is to join a leveling guild and get groups together outside of general.
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Dracalamar
04.02.2013 , 09:18 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
All this fixes aren't very well thought through.

Here is a fix that works better:
redesign the bosses so that you need at least 5 people to complete it (bossmechanics that otherwise one-shot even lvl 50ies)
Read number 3..minimum group...

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JamieKirby
04.02.2013 , 09:21 AM | #6
I have done these stupid quests enough times and not once did i win the loot rolls, so i never bother anymore, its just a waste of time, just like most, if not all the heroics in this game, the effort required never equals the rewards given for its completion.

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Dracalamar
04.02.2013 , 09:25 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by tahoeWolverine View Post
Hmm so you have failed to provide any valid reasons the these missions are worthless at low levels. The provide loot, xp, and codex...what more do you need? The reality is that, yes, it can be annoying when 50s kill a WB, but it's their kill as much as yours. Sure, maybe there should be better systems in place to make things more orderly, but it's working just fine as it is. 50s have almost no incentive to go and kill these WBs (codex's only really), so they won't be compelled to do so. If a 50 is farming this for the loot, they're very stupid.

Your best bet to getting these completed is to join a leveling guild and get groups together outside of general.
They don't provide anything for the levels they are intended to if you HAVE to go outside of general all the time. Before this change in loot, you saw general messages up all the time forming WB groups...now only those that haven't learned yet still do. As like today...someone said "If anyone is forming to kill the WB I will go" I rushed to the scene to confirm...and sure enough...a 50 showed up. I asked to join JUST for credit...he could have changed the loot spec to master loot to keep his trinkets. And aren't pubs supposed to be the "good" guys? I get more cooperation on my Imp toons. He told me to form a group. I replied what good would that do as it won't be back for several hours and to try is to invite another 50 to come kill it. H gave a LOL and put me on ignore. Priority Targets I is already green to me now...by the time it shows up again...it will be gray. Hence worthless.

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Dracalamar
04.02.2013 , 09:42 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by JamieKirby View Post
I have done these stupid quests enough times and not once did i win the loot rolls, so i never bother anymore, its just a waste of time, just like most, if not all the heroics in this game, the effort required never equals the rewards given for its completion.
Another possibility could be changing them to be like the WBs for the Gree event. Where everyone at least gets a Favor item on top of the loot rolls. Or 5 comms for the planet or something.

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well
04.02.2013 , 10:18 PM | #9
That is wild.Today was the first time I did one in a long time.The one on Repub Taris.It will be along time before I do another.1330 and something xp plus 350 credits..woohoo.The drops werent many or worth the effort.I could do a strong for close to that.Drops not the same but as usual I didnt get anything.As did many others.Just the way it is set up..oh well

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slafko
04.03.2013 , 02:57 AM | #10
I was under the impression that WB's were done for the Codex entries, not the loot or the experience.