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I've given up on Flash Points and Operations.


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Infernixx
03.31.2013 , 09:30 PM | #1
LFG stuff, anyways.

I can't get a single Flash Point and the only Operation I could get into broke up due to healers and tanks DCing.

I 'get' that it's late in the expansion, I do get that. But, I'm really really new to the endgame scene right now. People should expect to 'see' new players in Tionese and blue off-set pieces. I realize it's not the same as a BH-geared DPS, but surely it's good enough?

Instead, I get ridiculed, mocked, and straight up not-healed by LFG healers until I die and then left without a Res. All because I'm not as well geared as the rest of them.

I'm just glad that HC is around the corner. I'm done doing endgame stuff until I hit 55 and can actually get a chance to gear up at the start of an expansion.

Done ranting.
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HiltoftheDragon
03.31.2013 , 10:06 PM | #2
Bro, if your 50 then you can do end game now. Dont let a bunch of ******* discourage you. You just need to find a group of folks that overlooks that crap and actually helps you out on the gear progression. In most cases, its not easy. With ROTHC coming out, its going to be even harder with com limits and all.
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cabled
04.01.2013 , 12:05 AM | #3
hmm... i dont think healers or tanks make a differentiation when doing HM flashpoints. its really not an issue for a tionese geared player in those... if you aren't getting heals it might be something else...
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Eternalnight
04.01.2013 , 12:13 AM | #4
He is a dps and complains about not getting healed?

A dps should not even need to be healed much in most flashpoints, except sometimes very rarely.

If you are constantly needing to be healed as a dps, you are doing something wrong. And it has nothing to do with the gear.

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CJAShadow
04.01.2013 , 12:55 AM | #5
Actually, that could well be a tank problem too.

This late though, I (always) would suggest joining a guild that will take you through endgame material instead of pugging it. People have done these fights for 8 months and get frustrated when someone new comes in.

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Swaption
04.01.2013 , 12:07 PM | #6
I will often remove a dps from group as tank/heal (or leave myself), but only if they have at least one of the two following problems:

1.) Gear: Should be full tionese, and at least recruit in the off pieces. If there are any greens/blues (other than recruit) I will votekick immediately. Wrong spec gear is a similar reason. (same applies with Columi gear for LI)
2.) Rotation: Tionese gear is only enough if you actually know your class and rotation. If I see a dps using a garbage rotation, that would also be grounds for removal in my opinion.

One suggestion for you if you feel the tank/healer are leaving due to your gear is to quickly announce at the beginning of the FP that you are a new 50, but you know what you are doing and parse at least xxxx (make sure its a good number and you can actually hit it) on the ops dummy. Most of the players who would otherwise be intolerant of crappy gear will respect the fact that you know your rotations and parse your fights.
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StefanInter
04.01.2013 , 02:33 PM | #7
Join a guild or get a group of friends. Pugging flashpoints when well geared is a pain, much better when you know the people or atleast some of them.
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ChroniKill
04.01.2013 , 02:59 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Swaption View Post
I will often remove a dps from group as tank/heal (or leave myself), but only if they have at least one of the two following problems:

1.) Gear: Should be full tionese, and at least recruit in the off pieces. If there are any greens/blues (other than recruit) I will votekick immediately. Wrong spec gear is a similar reason. (same applies with Columi gear for LI)
2.) Rotation: Tionese gear is only enough if you actually know your class and rotation. If I see a dps using a garbage rotation, that would also be grounds for removal in my opinion.

One suggestion for you if you feel the tank/healer are leaving due to your gear is to quickly announce at the beginning of the FP that you are a new 50, but you know what you are doing and parse at least xxxx (make sure its a good number and you can actually hit it) on the ops dummy. Most of the players who would otherwise be intolerant of crappy gear will respect the fact that you know your rotations and parse your fights.
I can understand why you'd be annoyed at poor gear, but I don't understand the second comment. If someone is using a bad rotation, mention it and say they could do better by using xyz. They'll thank you then as will other people later on.

When I was a completely fresh 50 I'd just say I was new and nothing more. Everyone is new at some point. If they are so intolerant of tionese then that isnt the group you want to be part of.

OP - join a guild. You'll have s lot more fun and raids will be far more productive.

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TheRevv
04.01.2013 , 03:04 PM | #9
Don't let a handful of morons ruin your game experience. Yes there are going to be some *******es out there that will treat you like garbage because you aren't geared the way they want you to be, but at the same time there are lots of people out there understanding and willing to help newer players through. We were all there at some point anyways...right?

You just have to be patient and sometimes put up with the crap before you find a good group. My suggestion would be to find a guild that participates in end-game content that is willing to help you along the way (if you don't have one already). Keep up with your daily missions to make a steady income of credits, daily commendations, and black hole comms from the weeklies (section x and black hole). Tier 26 and 27 mods/enhancements/armorings are becoming increasingly cheap now that the expansion is close to dropping, so you could invest in some high tier gear to improve yourself steadily. Either that or find a cybertech willing to craft them for you from the materials since the mats are typically cheaper to buy than the mods themselves. Best of luck to you.
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zzoorrzz
04.01.2013 , 03:19 PM | #10
I'm not lvl 50 for long, Išve played just some hm FPs so far and daily missions/heroic missions. I don't consider myself perfect player and I did a couple of mistakes, but I've only met wonderful people so far who always answered my questions and didn't call me out for anything once, let alone kick me. That seems to be almost unimaginable according my experience I'm on Progenitor, very nice people there.

Btw. that rotation thing mentioned above seems to be a bit too harsh. Of course everybody has some system of abilites he use based on his experience. But in HM FPs there is no reason IMO to worry about that because they are actually not that hard.