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I_Sithed_MyPants
03.06.2013 , 06:16 PM | #1
Just my groups DPS combat logs from the first 3 boss fights & Kephess' Warstrider (we couldn't kill Kephess) in NiM EC.
If anybody has any advice or constructive criticism about how we can improve, I'd like to hear it.

Toth & Zorn
Marauder - http://www.torparse.com/a/156248/2/0/Overview - 991.98
PowerTech - http://www.torparse.com/a/156249/4/0/Overview - 1338.3
Sorcerer - http://www.torparse.com/a/156254/7/0/Overview - 1243.77
Mercenary - http://www.torparse.com/a/156241/1/0/Overview - 1291.13

Firebrand & Stormcaller
Marauder - http://www.torparse.com/a/156248/15/0/Overview - 1467.4
PowerTech - http://www.torparse.com/a/156249/17/0/Overview - 1662.37
Sorcerer - http://www.torparse.com/a/156254/20/0/Overview - 1431.93
Mercenary - http://www.torparse.com/a/156241/14/0/Overview - 1423.34

Colonel Vorgath
Marauder - http://www.torparse.com/a/156248/25/0/Overview - 1146.07
PowerTech - http://www.torparse.com/a/156249/27/0/Overview - 1457.34
Sorcerer - http://www.torparse.com/a/156254/30/0/Overview - 1279.44
Mercenary - http://www.torparse.com/a/156241/25/0/Overview - 1111.05

Kephess' Warstrider
Marauder - http://www.torparse.com/a/156248/tim...171/0/Overview - 1751.63
Powertech - http://www.torparse.com/a/156249/tim...368/0/Overview - 2058.46
Sorcerer - http://www.torparse.com/a/156254/tim...368/0/Overview - 1655.67
Mercenary - http://www.torparse.com/a/156241/tim...366/0/Overview - 1949.1

Thanks for reading!
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Raekor
03.06.2013 , 07:42 PM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by I_Sithed_MyPants View Post
Just my groups DPS combat logs from the first 3 boss fights & Kephess' Warstrider (we couldn't kill Kephess) in NiM EC.
If anybody has any advice or constructive criticism about how we can improve, I'd like to hear it.

Toth & Zorn
Marauder - http://www.torparse.com/a/156248/2/0/Overview - 991.98
PowerTech - http://www.torparse.com/a/156249/4/0/Overview - 1338.3
Sorcerer - http://www.torparse.com/a/156254/7/0/Overview - 1243.77
Mercenary - http://www.torparse.com/a/156241/1/0/Overview - 1291.13

Firebrand & Stormcaller
Marauder - http://www.torparse.com/a/156248/15/0/Overview - 1467.4
PowerTech - http://www.torparse.com/a/156249/17/0/Overview - 1662.37
Sorcerer - http://www.torparse.com/a/156254/20/0/Overview - 1431.93
Mercenary - http://www.torparse.com/a/156241/14/0/Overview - 1423.34

Colonel Vorgath
Marauder - http://www.torparse.com/a/156248/25/0/Overview - 1146.07
PowerTech - http://www.torparse.com/a/156249/27/0/Overview - 1457.34
Sorcerer - http://www.torparse.com/a/156254/30/0/Overview - 1279.44
Mercenary - http://www.torparse.com/a/156241/25/0/Overview - 1111.05

Kephess' Warstrider
Marauder - http://www.torparse.com/a/156248/tim...171/0/Overview - 1751.63
Powertech - http://www.torparse.com/a/156249/tim...368/0/Overview - 2058.46
Sorcerer - http://www.torparse.com/a/156254/tim...368/0/Overview - 1655.67
Mercenary - http://www.torparse.com/a/156241/tim...366/0/Overview - 1949.1

Thanks for reading!
Z & T looks fine to me. We pace the fight so we control the switches, never hit hard enrage doing it. It's not really a DPS race.

Tanks, assuming the PT is on Stormcaller that is fine as long as the other DPS on him is about the same, the rest look low. Were you getting two double destruction's per phase? Did you clip hard enrage at the end?

Vorgath looks fine, so much downtime in that fight.

Kephess looks high to me. Did you wipe just after or during the Trandoshan aoe packs?

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I_Sithed_MyPants
03.06.2013 , 07:48 PM | #3
Do you not think the Marauder's dps is low? I always thought they were supposed to be the best melee dps class.

We use a different strategy for fb & sc, 3 attack fb so only 1 dd, so the PT is on firebrand with marauder solo dps'ing stormcaller we still go into the hard enrage for about 8 seconds though.

Yeah we wiped during the Trandoshans, still working on that phase. The dps numbers I put there were just for the 20 or so seconds you can attack the Warstalker droid because I thought our dps was low there.
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Raekor
03.06.2013 , 07:59 PM | #4
A little low yes. Too low for Tanks, but I think Z & T only need an average DPS of 1100-1200 per character. Carnage would have a lot of downtime running away from Toth with no dots to continue DPS. Still a little low though.

Haven't taken my Marauder in to NiEC though as he isn't geared enough, only my Merc and PT. I'll see if one of our geared ones has a log posted, but I doubt it.

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wainot-keel
03.06.2013 , 08:56 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Raekor View Post
A little low yes. Too low for Tanks, but I think Z & T only need an average DPS of 1100-1200 per character. Carnage would have a lot of downtime running away from Toth with no dots to continue DPS. Still a little low though.
Wouldn't Carnage be better suited for that fight than Annihilation ? Without reading the lines from that mara log, I see Annihilation is 12.8% of overall damage. I think usually goes for around 18% - 20%. This maybe means mara losing the annihilator stacks when Toth jumps. That's always a dps loss (beyond the actual downtime on boss) and it's not so easy to avoid on that fight.

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I_Sithed_MyPants
03.06.2013 , 09:00 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by wainot-keel View Post
Wouldn't Carnage be better suited for that fight than Annihilation ? Without reading the lines from that mara log, I see Annihilation is 12.8% of overall damage. I think usually goes for around 18% - 20%. This maybe means mara losing the annihilator stacks when Toth jumps. That's always a dps loss (beyond the actual downtime on boss) and it's not so easy to avoid on that fight.
Yeah he is in Annihilation spec, so maybe that accounts for the lower dps on that fight.
But on the other fights, the sorcerer is sometimes out dps'ing him, and even the mercenary is keeping up with him. Is this a cause for concern.
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Raekor
03.06.2013 , 09:08 PM | #7
No logs. You're probably right on the spec, I'm not that great on my Marauder. More than enough for TFB, but that's it.

It probably is a concern that the Sorc is doing more, but it could also be that the Sorc is exceptionally good. I know one player that can put out some insane numbers on his Sorc (PT, Mara, awesome tank, and awesome healer as well, he's got god mode with a 400 ping).

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steave
03.06.2013 , 10:09 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by I_Sithed_MyPants View Post
Do you not think the Marauder's dps is low? I always thought they were supposed to be the best melee dps class.
Best? Yeah, when taking into account the utility, sure, but PTs match them in raw DPS potential, and while a PT is very easy to get maximum DPS out of it is much harder with a mara. Basically, the best maras and the best PTs will match eachother, but the gap between the best and worst maras are much greater than the difference between the best and worst PTs.

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Xelereth
03.06.2013 , 11:05 PM | #9
I can only remember the dps on the first 2 fights of my own. The marauder you have has pretty low dps.. I run Watchman (Annihilation for marauders).

I can hit around 1200-1300 (average) on T & Z and on the tanks i can hit around 1800. I wont go through his logs, im just saying this for your comparison.
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snowmon
03.07.2013 , 03:20 AM | #10
ok i give up, where is that dam corrosive injection coming from?

and yea seems the mara is pretty low
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