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Nucairion
03.01.2013 , 03:03 PM | #1
something needs to be done to stop this to many time do i see the guild drop it like its hoth on red eclipse having a full premade in normals and will likely leave ones there not all in. not only is it unfair to others thats wot ranked rwz are for so either they cowardly looking for a free and easy win and cant hack ranked or 2 they just enjoy making others wzs hell and unenjoyable.

bw seriously need to seperate premades from solo queues coz i cant see anyway they can prevent a 8 man guild group getting into normals. unless they only allow a 4 man premade in wzs and force 4 randoms onto there team.

i dont play this game for others to ruin my fun and playtime so they can have cheap and easy wins by ruining the fun for others.

while i know im gonna get absolutly flamed for this post and hardly anyone if any agree with me but such is life. but nothing says more cowardly tan an 8man premade in a normal wz. and its worse when they dont get on the same team as there other 4 man group they ditch the wz and queue until they get it.

if they dont fix issues like this class balancing wont matter when there no comeptitive normal warzones
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Zunayson
03.01.2013 , 04:56 PM | #2
Only read first and last line; Competitive warzones? LMFAO? There's nothing competitive about normal MMO PvP, its who has the most classes stacked.
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jediharrsion
03.01.2013 , 05:05 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Nucairion View Post
something needs to be done to stop this to many time do i see the guild drop it like its hoth on red eclipse having a full premade in normals and will likely leave ones there not all in. not only is it unfair to others thats wot ranked rwz are for so either they cowardly looking for a free and easy win and cant hack ranked or 2 they just enjoy making others wzs hell and unenjoyable.

bw seriously need to seperate premades from solo queues coz i cant see anyway they can prevent a 8 man guild group getting into normals. unless they only allow a 4 man premade in wzs and force 4 randoms onto there team.

i dont play this game for others to ruin my fun and playtime so they can have cheap and easy wins by ruining the fun for others.

while i know im gonna get absolutly flamed for this post and hardly anyone if any agree with me but such is life. but nothing says more cowardly tan an 8man premade in a normal wz. and its worse when they dont get on the same team as there other 4 man group they ditch the wz and queue until they get it.

if they dont fix issues like this class balancing wont matter when there no comeptitive normal warzones
I understand completely. but sadly i don't think anything will be done about this

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Nucairion
03.01.2013 , 05:34 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by jediharrsion View Post
I understand completely. but sadly i don't think anything will be done about this
glad someone understands. and i think your right bw wont do anything about it. hell theres still bugs and known issues in the game that have been there since launch day so not counting on anything being done. just a shame some people or some guilds like the one i name above feel the need to ruin other peoples fun and wz time jsut to look good or for a cheap and easy win.

i do think if enough people complain and keep complaining bout this issue bioware will be forced to do something if they dont want to loose more of there players coz if you cant have fun playing the content you wish to play in this case pvp, then players will leave and find somewhere that they will enjoy it.

and if bioware do something about it these kind of people will rage quit the game coz they dont look good anymore and actually get beaten or jsut rage quit beacause premade queues were split from solo queues giving them longer queue times, so really it in the best interest not to do crap like this and ruin other peoples fun if they wish to keep premade queues and solo queues together as sooner or later enough people will have enough of this issue can quit game or come here like i have done and post there issue,

as for the guy that laughed at competive pvp many mmo's actually have competitive pvp sure balance is always and issue but the games are back and forth and on an even playing field not 8 man premade in a normal wz vs half a premade or 8 pugs.

but bw seem insistant on killing off there own pvp with these rediculas nerfs and buffs and refusal to do anything major with smash. which is another topic i wont talk bout here. pvp should be competitive and should be equal in terms of team set up. not allowing a loophole in the queueing system for a guild to get 8 ppl in or ditch the other 4 people if they dont get there 8man premade
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DaveyboyW
03.01.2013 , 05:44 PM | #5
Drop it do play ranked, but if you have a big guild with multiple pre-mades then sooner or later they'll end up in the same WZ. It happens a lot in my guild too, although we end up against each other more often than with each other I reckon.

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criminalheretic
03.01.2013 , 05:49 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by DaveyboyW View Post
Drop it do play ranked, but if you have a big guild with multiple pre-mades then sooner or later they'll end up in the same WZ. It happens a lot in my guild too, although we end up against each other more often than with each other I reckon.
Occasionally ending up with 2 4mans is one thing, quitting over and over again until you do, is quite another.

What I don't get is the PuGs on the other side who stick around... You see 8 people with the same guild tag, and you're in a pure 8 man PuG, bounce. There is no quitter debuff, the best way to "thwart" someone who is exploiting the system, is to not bother playing against them at all.

The first time they might be all like "Yeah, we are so leet! They can't handle our powuh!" But by the 6th time their WZ ends after 1 min...
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Ifolad
03.01.2013 , 06:04 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Nucairion View Post
something needs to be done to stop this to many time do i see the guild drop it like its hoth on red eclipse having a full premade in normals and will likely leave ones there not all in. not only is it unfair to others thats wot ranked rwz are for so either they cowardly looking for a free and easy win and cant hack ranked or 2 they just enjoy making others wzs hell and unenjoyable.

bw seriously need to seperate premades from solo queues coz i cant see anyway they can prevent a 8 man guild group getting into normals. unless they only allow a 4 man premade in wzs and force 4 randoms onto there team.

i dont play this game for others to ruin my fun and playtime so they can have cheap and easy wins by ruining the fun for others.

while i know im gonna get absolutly flamed for this post and hardly anyone if any agree with me but such is life. but nothing says more cowardly tan an 8man premade in a normal wz. and its worse when they dont get on the same team as there other 4 man group they ditch the wz and queue until they get it.

if they dont fix issues like this class balancing wont matter when there no comeptitive normal warzones
Indeed, I hear ya and agree. The ones who do this have only ONE rebuttal "this game is a group oriented game" they use that as a cop out to justify their satisfaction then tell OP's like yourself to find a guild.

This will kinda go back at you OP and I don't meant this personally as an attack on you, but if humanity would quit worrying about the needs of the few and worry about the needs of the many and have some compassion towards others everyone's experience would be a lot better. I think i'm the only one that feels bad about beating a bunch of recruit gears 6-0 in huttball in 35seconds.

Not only do I feel bad for the team we just backalley'd chicago style, but it's not fun to win like that. There are a few though who live/breathe/die off of making others gametime a living hell as this is the ONLY source of enjoyment they get in their lives. i have a real life friend who does this thank god he's on another server and i give him the short end of the rope daily lol when we hang out. Though when he's not in game he's not a jerk lol. I don't get it and he can't explain it either.

On that note we must have compassion for people like that as they don't know any better. Only through example or by death from old age will they ever learn and most of the time they are good people who don't realise the stress they cause as from their point of view they would laugh it off and move on and wonder why the victim doesn't do the same.

Sorry for the long reply but i had to get it out. I'm sure i will also be flamed, but such is life and I have compassion for you who choose to do so and you are forgiven, but not forgotten.

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Carter_Mathis
03.01.2013 , 06:14 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Zunayson View Post
Only read first and last line; Competitive warzones? LMFAO? There's nothing competitive about normal MMO PvP, its who has the most classes stacked.
Yeah, absolutely no on care about winning, or plays to win.... or even tries to win
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ace_boogie
03.01.2013 , 06:23 PM | #9
I almost only solo queue so I know where you coming from... But the rare occasion I get to premade with Guildies I have a blast, and I'd rather not lose the ability to play with Guildies/friends. Or do silly stuff like run 4 sniper team like I did a few nights ago.

To be honest most premades aren't even that good(mine included). You only notice the ones who stomp the **** out of you.
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SomeJagoff
03.01.2013 , 07:04 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Nucairion View Post
something needs to be done to stop this to many time do i see the guild drop it like its hoth on red eclipse having a full premade in normals and will likely leave ones there not all in. not only is it unfair to others thats wot ranked rwz are for so either they cowardly looking for a free and easy win and cant hack ranked or 2 they just enjoy making others wzs hell and unenjoyable.

bw seriously need to seperate premades from solo queues coz i cant see anyway they can prevent a 8 man guild group getting into normals. unless they only allow a 4 man premade in wzs and force 4 randoms onto there team.

i dont play this game for others to ruin my fun and playtime so they can have cheap and easy wins by ruining the fun for others.

while i know im gonna get absolutly flamed for this post and hardly anyone if any agree with me but such is life. but nothing says more cowardly tan an 8man premade in a normal wz. and its worse when they dont get on the same team as there other 4 man group they ditch the wz and queue until they get it.

if they dont fix issues like this class balancing wont matter when there no comeptitive normal warzones
To be honest, they should just allow an 8man queue, save the pugstomping guilds some trouble of timing their queues to get all 8 into the same wz. Since it's happening already, bioware obviously doesn't care, so at least give those guilds a break and let all 8 queue together in regular wzs. At least then (depending on the size of the guild) there would only be 1 wz where pugs were being stomped instead of 2. Then eliminate wz backfill completely and gg, wz qqing solved.

oh and btw, regular warzones have never been competitive. The fact that one team has 4-8 members on voice chat, likely min-maxed wh/ewh gear can face off against 8 pugs, not on voice chat, likely in stock unaugmented wh gear, leaves the pugs at a distinct disadvantage. It's pretty much the equivalent of having 4-8 members of the Baltimore Ravens vs 8 high school football players from different high schools. Laughable? Certainly. Competitive? Hardly.
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