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tired of getting yelled at for healing

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Grumpftard
03.02.2013 , 09:32 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Mcadamsl View Post
to try to bring this tread back on track ,
Lol..agreed. This thread took a hell of a side track.

But I'll go one step further and put my money where my mouth is...Carbie?....what server are you on?
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mikebevo
03.02.2013 , 09:44 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Grumpftard View Post
But I'll go one step further and put my money where my mouth is...Carbie?....what server are you on?
I will do the same, my main is a healer, so she would be useless to you, but I have two other 50's on the republic side, Mar'ina and Leyn'a on The Harbinger. Not saying I am the greatest player in the world, this is my first MMO as was it my first time healing anything. I have however gotten to the point where I have finished HM TfB and 2 of the bosses on NiM EC on my healer. My dps has only been through HM EC, I do however know my abilities on DPS and most important to a healer, I know my defensive cooldowns and use them when needed. I also never belittle others, because it is rude, plus last year I was having the same problems.

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slafko
03.02.2013 , 02:45 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
If you're talking about the miniboss droid in MP, ...
I'm not. And you went way off course as usual.

Quote: Originally Posted by WooliestWorm View Post
I guess I took a fair bit more than was meant from your necessity of healers comment but from what you've said you kinda do make it sound like you consider healers to not be needed for the trash part of a HM (which is most of it) and that would certainly make me feel useless if I was healing on a HM and would make me feel like leaving the group. This could be another misunderstanding but maybe you now see where I'm coming from at least.
It was clear to me that you misinterpreted my posts from the start. And, looking at the underlined text, you again miss the entire "not need in order to engage" point. Healers are needed to patch us back up before next aggro. And by patching up I don't mean everyone at 100% health. Mobs in fp's are easily doable with less than max hp. It's not like the game offers spike attacks that will instagib people that are not at max health. That's why I said picking up loot is the healer's job - he frees the rest of the team to proceed onwards without much delays.

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WooliestWorm
03.02.2013 , 04:21 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by slafko View Post
I'm not. And you went way off course as usual.


It was clear to me that you misinterpreted my posts from the start. And, looking at the underlined text, you again miss the entire "not need in order to engage" point. Healers are needed to patch us back up before next aggro. And by patching up I don't mean everyone at 100% health. Mobs in fp's are easily doable with less than max hp. It's not like the game offers spike attacks that will instagib people that are not at max health. That's why I said picking up loot is the healer's job - he frees the rest of the team to proceed onwards without much delays.
Ah I get it now, I took one of your earlier posts about clearing half a pack on your own and applied it a bit too broadly, fair enough but I'd still find it annoying if you started a fight while I'm still trying to catch up, particularly on the 2 healing classes with no speed boost (at least until 2.0 :P)

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Bellumpvp
03.04.2013 , 02:47 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by CarbieChronicles View Post
i have NEVER played a healing class before ever and this is my first attempt, but no matter what happens i always fail. i am about sick to death of moronic dbags verbally abusing me and trashing me because i dont keep their health bars maxed out. what is the use of playing when all i ever see is negativity in this game? i cant even find a decent guild that has actual mature people in it...what a waste....
Try and run flashpoints/operations with friendly players. Sooner or later you're gonna run into a bunch of douchebags who don't know what CCing is. And if you're constantly being attacked by mobs in a flashpoint tell the group of your issue. If the tank doesn't get aggro off you, just leave the group.
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Sjuvat
03.04.2013 , 03:43 PM | #66
lots of good suggestions here, you have found the forums make sure you have read everything in the class/consular/sage section on healing.

good luck and don't let the moaners get you down!

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-Wes-
03.05.2013 , 04:35 PM | #67
I *LOVE* the healers! Being on (basically) my first character at level 33 with a DPS (tank minor), I'm sure I am not anywhere near efficient at my role, but I sure appreciate the healers and do everything I can to keep the aggro off them. If necessary, I've mass taunted mobs (when I'm not playing the tank role) just to buy the others a few seconds to recover, wherein often times they will and we proceed (after they pick my sorry butt off the floor a time or two).

I have only done pick-up groups, but organized parties sounds like it would be fun. Thus far, even with frustrations with folks charging in without any crowd control, breaking crowd control, or not focusing on the right order of targets, I've yet to experience a cranky member.

My primary character, who I suppose is now an alternate since I abandoned him at an early level due to some system glitches, is a healer, and I look forward to using him in groups once I'm through my class storyline.
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Zsavooz
03.06.2013 , 08:41 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Bellumpvp View Post
Try and run flashpoints/operations with friendly players. Sooner or later you're gonna run into a bunch of douchebags who don't know what CCing is. And if you're constantly being attacked by mobs in a flashpoint tell the group of your issue. If the tank doesn't get aggro off you, just leave the group.
agreed. I unfortunately played with this Dude named Furii on the Jedi Covenant server, you know, the guy with all the perks Cartel Points can buy. His Mommy must have left her credit card home one unfortunate morning. He may have been the worst Tank I have ever seen, running ahead of us all, then stopping, not engaging the mobs, no one knew what to do. Seriously, it was enough for me to respec to balance, F Healing.

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notean
03.14.2013 , 11:01 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by CarbieChronicles View Post
i have NEVER played a healing class before ever and this is my first attempt, but no matter what happens i always fail. i am about sick to death of moronic dbags verbally abusing me and trashing me because i dont keep their health bars maxed out. what is the use of playing when all i ever see is negativity in this game? i cant even find a decent guild that has actual mature people in it...what a waste....
Get used with it, it happens all the time that people who are ignorant to healing themselves try to find scapecoat and healer is usually their first target as they do not know much more else about combat mechanics. Regardless, try improve your own skills and learn to maintain your focus even when somebody tries to troll you.

What lot of unskilled players, especially those with some WoW-style MMO background do not understand: secret of good healing is not keeping everyone topped up but keeping key party members ( yourself, tank and high damage dps ) alive when they mess up on something. Set aside booss-fights rarely start healing before player goes under 2/3 life as it would end up in over-healing due self-regeneration and strengthen wrong behavior and create more reckless players who may not even be aware what it costs to keep them alive.

Normally in flashpoints, set aside some boss fights, anyone who needs external healing is either unskilled, seriously undergeared or plain reckless fool.

Quote: Originally Posted by slafko View Post
I don't see a problem with being yelled at; stop healing them entirely and they'll shut up.
Good point. As healer in flashpoint you usually are most important for party and that means when somebody tries to bully you, you can usually bully them too. When somebody tries to kick you without good reason and fails or whines too much over your healing, kick them will be best idea as that party would not work anyways. Most practical people will rather support healer then anyone else in conflict. Just try to be fair and if you really mess up yourself or have lag problems then be ready to admit it.

Quote: Originally Posted by slafko View Post
When I'm playing dps, the thing I hate the most is a slow tank. Some tanks wait a few seconds after a group has been killed to start moving again. Then they stand a few seconds in front of the next group before they aggro. It drives me insane. Those constant, needless delays. I start moving when the last mob in the group is about to die and I throw my lightsaber at it in the process. If the tank is especially slow and wastes time to pick up drops (which is a healer's job), I'll jump into the mob, pop my defensive cooldowns and take half of them out by the time the lazypants tank decides to join.
You should really not play tank with that kind of problem as this is just type of players who makes half of flashpoint pugs living hell for healers and unskilled players. They cause lot of wipes - wasting tons of time and usually end up breaking party due differencies of opinion. Not paying attention to anyone else and only blindly rushing ahead. Take into account that most players may not have skilled or have enough knowledge about particular flashpoint and lack rocket boosters or other skills to catch you up in time or to watch their flanks for aggro - so you setting your party up for potential disaster.

When playing healer I really hate tanks who do not give me time to position myself correctly, pre-shield, apply cc and/or constantly break my meditation. It might not be needed when you run with people you know well enough or with who your playstyle fits well enough. You should certainly not start with reckless style in beginning of flashpoint. If party seems to fit together, you can gradually increase speed but you should always give at least few second for healer before jumping into next combat.

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Jeca_Cutrer
03.14.2013 , 11:09 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by slafko View Post
When I'm playing dps, the thing I hate the most is a slow tank. Some tanks wait a few seconds after a group has been killed to start moving again. Then they stand a few seconds in front of the next group before they aggro. It drives me insane. Those constant, needless delays. I start moving when the last mob in the group is about to die and I throw my lightsaber at it in the process. If the tank is especially slow and wastes time to pick up drops (which is a healer's job), I'll jump into the mob, pop my defensive cooldowns and take half of them out by the time the lazypants tank decides to join.
Believe me, the tank hates you just as much. I can't stand jump-the-gun DPSes who are constantly prematurely ejaculating.

Going by your other posts, you don't seem to view this game as a game. You seem to want to race through and get your presents as quickly as possible. And hey, if the rest of your group feels the same that's fine. But don't pretend that it's a problem with everyone else rather than with you.
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