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tired of getting yelled at for healing

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uziforyou
02.26.2013 , 04:30 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by slafko View Post
I don't see a problem with being yelled at; stop healing them entirely and they'll shut up.
Lol, I actually agree. I make mistakes and I'll own up to them when I do but I'm not putting up with ******ery. If dps are being d-bags, I just won't heal them. If it's the tank I'll leave the group. I play to have fun and I'm unwilling to let others ruin that fun.
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Aurojiin
02.26.2013 , 06:28 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by ShadowAxx View Post
I regularly ask for a tank guard when queuing up for a PUG warzone or OPs mission, maybe 20% of the time I find someone who even responds.
Outside of a handful of specific circumstances, you should not be asking for guard in Ops. Warzones are another matter, obviously.
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Tatile
02.26.2013 , 06:37 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by CarbieChronicles View Post
when we start to attack of elites in a group, i always give the tank a bubble to help reduce the damage, then i apply bubbles to the rest of the team. i also cc one mob so it can also reduce the amount of damage coming in as well. i notice every time i get a mob on me and i end up not healing because i am fighting for my life, i am always left alone by the dps and tank. so that is why i get yelled at, not for being a poor healer, but for the other 3 members in the party, in my opinion are not doing their jobs.
Any body who doesn't protect and respect their healer, doesn't deserve one. Pop the idiots on your ignore list and find another group or, better yet, a guild.

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Pirana
02.26.2013 , 07:05 PM | #14
Oddly enough, a similar thread from a couple of days ago was started regarding not using Interrupts. The following is something I noticed while Tanking, Healing and DPS'ing a few HM's on Friday and Saturday, all pugs. This is a quick list of common mistakes that some make while grouping.

1 - The Tank doesn't taunt
2 - The Tank shields the Healer (rarely, is this necessary, almost always it should be on your highest dps threat)
3 - The Tank rushes ahead, not paying attention to the rest of the group
4 - The DPS'ers won't kill the adds, and go for the boss, often leaving the Healer struggling to keep themselves alive
5 - The DPS'er has his 'Tank Stance' on, (or) insists on taunting the boss, making up for some sort of shortcoming on their part
6 - DPS'ers rush into the fight before the Tank
7 - Healers won't cleanse
8 - Crowd Control breakers
9 - People won't interrupt

Numbers two and four I see nearly every time I run a pug, it's astounding really. If you notice any of those occurring, you'll have your answer. There's probably more I'm neglecting, but those quickly come to mind.
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Daragon
02.27.2013 , 12:06 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Pirana View Post

5 - The DPS'er has his 'Tank Stance' on, (or) insists on taunting the boss, making up for some sort of shortcoming on their part
related to this is tanks not using their tank stance, often a result of impatient dps queueing as tank so they can get a group quiicker.

that's a pretty comprehensive list of the most frequent problems, and ultimately i think rather than it being a purely pug issue it's just one of players not knowing what their role is and how they're supposed to be playing to fill that role. understandable while levelling and still learning your role but at level 50 those sort of issues should have been ironed out of your playing, i've been part of some very efficient groups that have said hi and that's it until thanking each other for a good run because everyone knows what they should be doing and actually do it.

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RaineyDaze
02.27.2013 , 12:32 PM | #16
A little patience is needed. Since I'm a newish player there also has to be a learning curve. I let groups know I am new and have never done xx FP before. Since I play a shadow tank most times I just stay in tank stance even when I'm not the tank. I do mess up, like being discovered while stealthing in to place CC but only once as next time I made sure I used blackout too. I'll queue in as a dps my first time through a FP since I don't know what's going on. Most of the time when a tank attacks a wait a sec or 2 before I run in to see if something comes out of a wall or something. I don't see this as wrong but I may be wrong, and as an off tank I always guard healer and keep an eye on them.
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murkin
02.27.2013 , 12:36 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by CarbieChronicles View Post
i have NEVER played a healing class before ever and this is my first attempt, but no matter what happens i always fail. i am about sick to death of moronic dbags verbally abusing me and trashing me because i dont keep their health bars maxed out. what is the use of playing when all i ever see is negativity in this game? i cant even find a decent guild that has actual mature people in it...what a waste....
I wouldn't worry about it man. People are going to be quick to blame their faults on others. I would recommend creating a new chat tab and set it to whispers, guild, and etc. With this make sure you're always reading the map and be ready to peel when needed.

Just keep your head up and keep working at getting better.

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Pirana
02.27.2013 , 01:36 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Daragon View Post
and ultimately i think rather than it being a purely pug issue it's just one of players not knowing what their role is and how they're supposed to be playing to fill that role. understandable while levelling and still learning your role but at level 50 those sort of issues should have been ironed out of your playing
Absolutely. I brought up the pug only because it was something I had recently experienced, but by no means is it only a pick up group issue. As you mentioned, often it's people not understanding their roles. Hopefully some will read those bullet points and take something from them.

To the op, as Murkin mentioned, keep your head up and keep chugging along.
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chuixupu
02.27.2013 , 01:49 PM | #19
I've been healing in MMOs for a long time, and there are always "those" people. I've patiently dealt with some really horrible players, only to be kicked in the end because they didn't understand what they were doing wrong and of course, blamed the healer. In all honesty though, it's not usually that bad. The majority of instances don't have that many douchey people in them. A lot of times the healer is that person too, berating everyone else.

If you find yourself constantly struggling as a healer, I would find someone, or some guides to help you figure out if there are better ways to go about healing, and gearing for healing, and also get a little better knowledge about what the tanks and dps should be doing in there. Instances are tough when it's the blind leading the blind. If you know you're doing your best and doing it right, help the rest of the group do their job better as well. (I know sometimes they don't listen, though).
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ShadowAxx
02.27.2013 , 03:32 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurojiin View Post
Outside of a handful of specific circumstances, you should not be asking for guard in Ops. Warzones are another matter, obviously.
really. why is that?