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why are people freaking out about Ilum in 1.7?

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why are people freaking out about Ilum in 1.7?

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Prysha
02.12.2013 , 11:53 PM | #311
Quote: Originally Posted by crunchbarry View Post
that side of ilum is meant to be the open world pvp zone.
yeah i woudl have no problem to make an OPS group to annihilate rebel scum.. BUT the problem is now imps killing imps...the whole game makes no sense now anymore...

if it was about allignment i would understand.. but THIS how it is.. makes no sense


i think Bioware / EA wants us to leave....
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02.13.2013 , 12:35 AM | #312
Quote: Originally Posted by Prysha View Post
yeah i woudl have no problem to make an OPS group to annihilate rebel scum.. BUT the problem is now imps killing imps...the whole game makes no sense now anymore...

if it was about allignment i would understand.. but THIS how it is.. makes no sense


i think Bioware / EA wants us to leave....
i tend to agree with this.

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Excorsion
02.13.2013 , 12:44 AM | #313
Quote: Originally Posted by skiibyrd View Post
its all over every planet, everywhere already!! lol, you go through numberous PvP areas through the course of leveling, so no, its not an issue.

PLUS...

Ilum missions are not required to complete your main storyline, its basically just additional story for fun, and a place to get in a couple extra dailies.
Wrong... you can level all the way to max without pvping at all... you can gear out without pvping. I know I have done it 6 times now. Why are you so worried about people crying over the pvp on illum? if you are having fun then get in game and have fun.

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DarthObelisk
02.13.2013 , 01:08 AM | #314
Why is EA/ bio ware forcing non pvpers to pvp for legacy bound weapons.??

You dont see non pvpers complaining about that you cant get pvp gear from pve areas. Furthermore pvpers have the elite war-hero gear which is the same as the black hole/dread guard is for non pvpers?
So why force non pvpers into an area that is specific to pvp for legacy bound gear ?
OK rant is over but seriously why ? ?

would it have been so hard for them to put the pvp missions in pvp area and put some pve missions in a pve area so both sides of the coin are happy pvpers and non pvpers ? Then by keeping the rewards the same for both sides one side doesn't out weight the other in rewards offered ?
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Kahotep
02.13.2013 , 01:16 AM | #315
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthObelisk View Post
Why is EA/ bio ware forcing non pvpers to pvp for legacy bound weapons.??

You dont see non pvpers complaining about that you cant get pvp gear from pve areas. Furthermore pvpers have the elite war-hero gear which is the same as the black hole/dread guard is for non pvpers?
So why force non pvpers into an area that is specific to pvp for legacy bound gear ?
OK rant is over but seriously why ? ?
Nobody is forcing you to do anything, they're just giving you the option to do something if you want to. I have no interest in pvp, so I'm just not going to do the pvp elements of Ilum. However, I had a lot of fun last night doing a couple of the pve quests on my level 45 character. Thanks to the buff, I earned some fantastic experience, a lot of money and a bit of Gree rep. Loved it!

In fact, I love this patch. It has both pve and pvp elements, whereas other patches have been one or the other. I just don't get the attitude of players who think they are being forced into doing things they don't enjoy. Just do the bits you like.

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Lunafox
02.13.2013 , 01:20 AM | #316
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlbo_Nabbins View Post
I play on a PvE server, so what I chose to do is to not do PvP.



Why? I don't enjoy PvP at all in games like SWTOR, why should I be forced to do it? I chose a server that was PvE because it meant PvP was an optional side that I could ignore completely (except that will no longer be the case).



No you don't, an area where you can PvP if you choose to be flagged and the other player also chooses to be flagged is not a PvP area. The number of times I have entered an area where I could be involved in PvP is 1. That was when getting the HK-51 part from Outlaw's den. It is an issue.

Lets make this clear. I don't like PvP in this game, I don't want to do PvP in this game and I chose a PvE server so that I would not need to go near PvP in this game.

^^ This. 100% totally this. I feel exactly the same way, and I too play on a PVE server by my choice, and I don't understand why the devs keep forcing PVP on us in these latest events. It's really upsetting, when you wait months for new content, only to find that you won't be able to participate in it to full benefit. PVP is NOT my thing, and no amount of ppl who tell me to get gear, or gear is easy to get will convince me. I don't like PVP, thats why I chose a PVE server. I don't know why thats so hard for the devs to grasp.
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DarthObelisk
02.13.2013 , 01:22 AM | #317
Quote: Originally Posted by Kahotep View Post
Nobody is forcing you to do anything, they're just giving you the option to do something if you want to. I have no interest in pvp, so I'm just not going to do the pvp elements of Ilum. However, I had a lot of fun last night doing a couple of the pve quests on my level 45 character. Thanks to the buff, I earned some fantastic experience, a lot of money and a bit of Gree rep. Loved it!

In fact, I love this patch. It has both pve and pvp elements, whereas other patches have been one or the other. I just don't get the attitude of players who think they are being forced into doing things they don't enjoy. Just do the bits you like.
In a way bioware is forcing people to pvp.
Now hear me out. One of the rewards most people are trying to get is the legacy bound lightsabers and other legacy bound weapons. Now this would be fine if they were only used in wz's and open world pvp but they are also usable by non pvpers as well so how is that not making people pvp for gear ?
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Kahotep
02.13.2013 , 01:25 AM | #318
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunafox View Post
^^ This. 100% totally this. I feel exactly the same way, and I too play on a PVE server by my choice, and I don't understand why the devs keep forcing PVP on us in these latest events. It's really upsetting, when you wait months for new content, only to find that you won't be able to participate in it to full benefit. PVP is NOT my thing, and no amount of ppl who tell me to get gear, or gear is easy to get will convince me. I don't like PVP, thats why I chose a PVE server. I don't know why thats so hard for the devs to grasp.
I find this incredible. Do you complain about the existence of warzones too? Why do you think that every patch should only contain things that YOU want to do?

I also play on a PVE server. I also have no interest in PVP. I'm enjoying the PVE elements of this patch and just not doing the PVP bits. Same as I don't do warzones either. It's easy, and I don't get annoyed by the fact that not everyone wants the same things I do.

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CaptRavenous
02.13.2013 , 01:57 AM | #319
Quote: Originally Posted by skiibyrd View Post
Serioiusly, do people not visit and quest on Ilum already... a planet where there already is PvP area's, and a place you can be steamrolled if your not careful? I would also like to point out, to those with concern, that Ilum had a specific and DEDICATED place for PvP area last time, it was not the whole planet, and it seems like a lot of people with concern are just freaking out for no reason.

*Get some recruit gear

*Prepare yourself for PvP (and if your playing on a PvP server, then please DO NOT complain about open world PvP, its what you chose to do)

*Practice, and play some PvP matches... it isnt brain science

People have gotten too comforable with this game, and are used to sitting on the fleet for most of their play time, a place where they are safe. If I had it my way, the fleet would be destroyed, and you would have the chance of being attacked anywhere, at anytime. If they do this right, it could really add a very important element to this game that its been lacking for almost a whole year.

Those of us who have been here since the beginning, and experienced Ilum and its open would PvP would probably agree that the issue of it being released is NOT you being attacked, its going to be if the engine can support the large scale battles, and not play at only .5 framerate, then crash your game.
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Some of us PvEers know Ilum is a PvP planet, and how to avoid PvP there.

"Forcing" PvP on you. I lol'd. And I'm not even a PvPer.

I will say, though, the Gree event has had other problems, which is expected, as there is no way currently to beta test these events, except by internal beta testers, which makes these events stupid to even run in the first place.

Its like giving a loved one a suprise-gift. Your friend hopes for something he/she likes, but you got him/her a pair of plain underwear with holes in it.

That's what you've been doing with every event so far, Bioware, instead of asking us what we would like, then having a few of us beta-test your present to see if it might actually be what most people would like.

You need a new Event Director and Event Team. The one you have is doing a bad job.
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02.13.2013 , 01:58 AM | #320
People complaining about same-faction fighting in the free-for-all area is just silly. It's not a faction vs. faction area, it's a free-for-all area. They obviously tried to set things up there to eliminate the huge disadvantage one faction would have if the other faction significantly outnumbers them...although there are still ways to get around this with some communications effort to coordinate groups. But that is an area that can be avoided and you don't have to flag yourself on a PVE server.

However, the bigger complaint I've seen in general chat is with people doing the heroic for the event in areas where you have to be flagged for PVP and people from the other faction are camping those locations in operations groups (which are not allowed in the free-for-all area) and trying to jump into AOE's and force-flag PVE'ers. Supposedly, that was fixed so it's hard to say whether it's a bug issue or whether people just aren't paying attention and get themselves flagged. But jumping into an AOE to try to get someone to unintentionally flag themselves so you can grief them is NOT PVP. Do anything you want in the free-for-all area but if you're trying to force-flag non-PVP'ers on a PVE server, then that has nothing to do with PVP, promoting open-world PVP or anything other legitimate aspect of the game.