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Subbed for a month, won't be back

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Petnil
01.21.2013 , 06:25 PM | #31
Yes leveling is easy, especially when you got loads of precense. For a new player without any presence itīs alot harder. Still not too hard imo, but alot harder.

Imo comunity is what makes or brakes an MMO. swtor comunity isnīt great, but itīs ok. tīs all about finding the right group of guys and gals to play with.

The thing about crafting i dont agree. For me crafing should take more time. Not more time for companions to craft or get materials, but it should take time on the actual toon with the crafting skill, not time on his companions.
The way i see it crafting takes no time at all for your avatar, and imo thatīs not right.

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ClavisN
01.22.2013 , 09:22 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by craic_fox View Post
Well that was probably the best quit post I've read in a long time. I think the OP deserves credit for taking the time to share his opinions and experiences so eloquently. It was a pleasure to read and I think that a lot of the points raised are valid.
First, I second that. (Well, except for the length - It was too long).
But the poster is completely wrong.

I have done what he has done - played every type of characters to 10 on both sides, and most of these to 20.
And I disagree with most of his findings. I am pretty sure he rushed through content and went severely underleveled.

If you do 90-95% of the quests (on each planet there is at least one quest I usually leave out because I hate it), at level 20 you find yourself early on your third Planet (Taris/Balmorra). And you get along nicely. On the other hand, I have seen level 16s trying to do Nar Shaddaa, bitterly complaining that they die all the time. Well, yes - get your *** to Taris/Balmorra, or back to Coruscant/Dromund Kaas to do all the quests you left out.

Or join groups for Heroics. Or do Flashpoints. Or PvP. Or Space Missions. There is really so much to do to gain XP and level. If you stay 2 levels ahead of the content, most of it is a breeze. If you stay on par, it's a little challenging. If you lag behind it you'll have a hard time.

As for starter quest, he is right about one thing: the first soldier phase in the volcano is really hard. You have no companion at this point, and the imperial soldiers there rip you to shreds, especially with their engineers and their damned debuffs. I usually try to find help for that part.

And he is right about the damned ninjas. Its gotten worse, especially on places like Coruscant and Drom und Kaas. Kill and case stealing is a habit for some.

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SpannersSF
01.22.2013 , 11:20 PM | #33
I long for the days when people just stopped playing games they didn't like instead of this sad stuff.

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NeuroniaSW
01.23.2013 , 03:51 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBloodyBeast View Post
And I subbed after a few hours of playing. Love this game.
Same here, but the OP's point about the social aspects of the game is quite valid.
I've been in Flashpoints, teams, all sorts of stuff and the only time I've actually had a conversation (RP or otherwise) is in a Black Talon run with some RPers...otherwise no one says anything, ever. The best chance for a convo is General chat.

The game otherwise is MMO...grind and craft and re-roll. The game could really use a branching level 20-30 path because Nar Shaddaa is getting a little old, Taris is nice for a change though.

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ziphii
01.23.2013 , 07:59 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by NeuroniaSW View Post
Same here, but the OP's point about the social aspects of the game is quite valid.
I've been in Flashpoints, teams, all sorts of stuff and the only time I've actually had a conversation (RP or otherwise) is in a Black Talon run with some RPers...otherwise no one says anything, ever. The best chance for a convo is General chat.

The game otherwise is MMO...grind and craft and re-roll. The game could really use a branching level 20-30 path because Nar Shaddaa is getting a little old, Taris is nice for a change though.
That would be nice to add a branching option to leveling at that level.

Also, it would be nice if people were more interactive, but I think it's a combination of jerks who don't care about the other people in the group, and people who have burned by such.

I still love this game a lot, and will be paying for a sub for a while to come.

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Darkkien
01.23.2013 , 08:30 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by SpannersSF View Post
I long for the days when people just stopped playing games they didn't like instead of this sad stuff.
I second that opinion why is it that ppl feel the need to complain to other random ppl on a board about not liking a game and then get mad when their post is criticized

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DaShuk
01.23.2013 , 08:34 PM | #37
I really do enjoy the game, but will give the OP credit because they had some very valid points, especially with some of the quests and resource ninja looting. I really can't stand playing Coruscant or Taris when it's crowded at the lower levels now. Bioware doesn't seem to have a very good idea of resource respawn time, especially on some quests where you have to click a glowie. It's for this reason I often just skip the stupid quest on Taris where you have to throw bombs in the Rakghoul caverns through the pipes. Those pipes are hard to find and often when you do find one someone else ninjas it from you or it is still respawning. Same goes for "kill" quests for bonuses. Often times the respawn rate is either just right or completely awful. Best example is the Gree mission in Coruscant where you have to kill 10 droids. It takes forever if there are more than 2 people in there, but then other areas the enemies respawn quickly and kill quests do not take that long to complete.

However I do disagree on leveling and game difficulty that is hinted at in the OP. SWTOR is probably the easiest MMO I have played besides Star Trek Online. The opening planets, especially Ord Mantel and Hutta are laughably easy. If you do the majority of the quests on each planet and take time to do Heroics and Flashpoints you will be way over leveled for the content, not to mention with all the XP boosts in game now. I find myself almost always +2 or +3 to content when starting a new planet, so much so that now I actually skip quests to try to be closer to level. You out level quest rewards so fast it isn't even funny.

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Mizry
01.23.2013 , 09:45 PM | #38
I played this game as soon as it came out. I loved it at first!!! I was so looking forward to a story driven MMO. I left shortly before F2P became available. I left for a few reasons and missed the game for many others.

The reasons I left was the PVP. I enjoy PVP but at the same time it was pretty much the only thing anyone did. War Zones do get old from my point of view. I would log onto a planet and there would be 3 players on. There was no PVE oppertunity that I could find. My buddy and I would have to run flashpoints with our companions as finding group members would take for ever.

I had become a single player game with WarZones as a place to see some folks and remind myself that others did play.

To be fair to the community, I work long hours and don't have the time it can take to fully integrate into a player base. People I did become friends with would be level 50 way before I hit 30 and so on.

So I left,

I have re-subbed for a month to see if things have changed. I hear that things have changed a little. Many of the OP comments ring true to me. I think the Space combat sucks... lol but I still play them. I think it can be hard to find good people to run with, yet they must be there. Crafting in this game takes no time out of my play so i have no compaints there.

The story lines are oh so sweet and really are what keep me interested.

As far as game chalange goes... I found I would skip side questing because I was always way to ahead of the curve in power. I have never had a challenge with planet or solo quests. If I needed a boost in power, one or two flashpoints would get me up to par and they are really fun to boot.

I am now level 47, Op Healer and 45 marauder. I am having a tough time finding flash point groups. I am finding level 45-49 very slow as there are few others in that range.

I will hit 50 soon and then decide weather I want to keep subbing. It could be that I find my place in the community. I could be that its just not the game for me.

Thanks to all those I have had fun with and to all those I will have fun with.

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Bugattiboy
01.24.2013 , 06:29 PM | #39
Peace out dude. You never knew the game. We never knew you. Can't say we'll miss you or even notice you're gone.
I didn't think anything could top the stupidity of no new group content in Fallen Empire...

...then Level Sync happened.

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Radzkie
01.24.2013 , 09:03 PM | #40
I know it's been pointed out before, but just to press the point, playing to level 20 does not, in any sense, in any way, in any form, give a player the big picture of the game. I can get to level 20 in what... three hours maybe? It is not possible to get to know a whole mmo in that short of time either.

You're missing out leaving so early. You should stay and get to know the mmo more before deciding if you're done with it. Maybe you'll find that you actually like it!