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Best dps - merc or pt?

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Best dps - merc or pt?

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TwistedTony
01.14.2013 , 01:08 PM | #1
I wanna make a bounty hunter and I love deeps. I know powertechs are up there with marauders for dps, so my question is do Mercs match them or at least come close? I know they're harder to play, which I'm fine with, I like challenging classes, but if played right are Mercs equal with powertechs or no?
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OlosBC
01.14.2013 , 02:17 PM | #2
Haven't played a merc, but from what I understand:

Ptech does a bit more DPS and is more mobile. Must stay within 10m and sometimes 4m, not totally cut off if out of range though.
Merc is of course ranged, and also provides armor debuff if that's an issue.

Merc has better aoe, but ptech is no slouch there either.

Ptech has no threat drop, and I think merc's is on gcd.
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TwistedTony
01.14.2013 , 02:50 PM | #3
That's not so bad. I was gonna say if pt was a lot better than merc, that's garbage cuz the only difference is one is ranged and the other melee. It's not like marauder and jug where both are melee but one is more dps oriented and the other is tank oriented
The Bastion - Descension
Rexas - Juggernaut, Predatus - Marauder, Malitus - Assassin
Vigilax - Guardian

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Holinyx
01.15.2013 , 02:00 AM | #4
I'm an arsenal merc. there isn't a powertech alive that can out dps me. powertechs are tanks; you can play dps in pve, but don't bring that weak a%$ PT dps to a HM Op or you'll get laughed at.
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KTap
01.15.2013 , 07:03 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Holinyx View Post
I'm an arsenal merc. there isn't a powertech alive that can out dps me. powertechs are tanks; you can play dps in pve, but don't bring that weak a%$ PT dps to a HM Op or you'll get laughed at.
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Also, I bet my PT could out dps you

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Morngwath
01.15.2013 , 08:19 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Holinyx View Post
I'm an arsenal merc. there isn't a powertech alive that can out dps me. powertechs are tanks; you can play dps in pve, but don't bring that weak a%$ PT dps to a HM Op or you'll get laughed at.
I'd say there are quite a few PTs that can outdamage your Merc^^
Look here: http://www.torparse.com/statistics
Click on Terror From Beyond on the left, click the Dread Guard fight(Ciphas, Heirad, & Kel'sara) and choose 8 HM/NM at the top. Now look at the Top 50 DPS. How many PTs do you see? How many Mercs?
This should also answer the OP's question.
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curtisloew
01.15.2013 , 06:10 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Holinyx View Post
I'm an arsenal merc. there isn't a powertech alive that can out dps me. powertechs are tanks; you can play dps in pve, but don't bring that weak a%$ PT dps to a HM Op or you'll get laughed at.
This is the most comical thing I've read in a long time.

How about you post your parses from TFB HM, and I bet my PT is higher on 5/5 fights.

To OP: They are both very good. Both rotations are very easy, merc is not "challenging". PT is slightly higher dps at the moment, but its within 5% with the top players, so it's close enough. Play what playstyle you prefer (ranged vs mellee).

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ScytheEleven
01.16.2013 , 08:19 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Holinyx View Post
I'm an arsenal merc. there isn't a powertech alive that can out dps me. powertechs are tanks; you can play dps in pve, but don't bring that weak a%$ PT dps to a HM Op or you'll get laughed at.
I love this attitude from Mercs. I see it all the time. They just refuse to believe that PT can out DPS them with ease.

And then, once they finally realize that PT's can, they love to try and make it look better by saying things like "Well, Mercs will always be taken over a PT anyway because we can heal and/or cleanse ourselves, and make it easier on the healers".

Truth be told, once Makeb hits and the classes get expanded, I have a strong feeling that PT DPS will fall a bit from the top. So right now, I'm just trying to have as much fun as I can with it.

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Holinyx
01.16.2013 , 08:36 PM | #9
ok i'm looking at the Torparse. C,H,K fight,TFB. i see ONE merc. #50.

I refuse to believe Mercs are the worst dps in the game as they are #50 on that list.

only 12 different guilds on the whole thing? i'm going to guess only people signed up and stuff are listed. I am going to assume alot of Mercs are just not signed up to Torparse. How many Mercs are registered on this site compared to the number of PTs? i know i'm not. hence the reason i'm not listed. I don't see anywhere to download any Parse software or even how it works. anywho....i stand by what i said earlier.

None of you PTs can out dps me. /superflex

Edit: i was looking at SM. on HM the only Merc is #25....and is a different guy from the one who was #50. 14 PTs on the list? LOL. and out of the whole 50...i see only one player from my server. a Sniper. Torparse does not reflect the real world and should not be viewed as such.
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Raekor
01.16.2013 , 10:11 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Holinyx View Post
ok i'm looking at the Torparse. C,H,K fight,TFB. i see ONE merc. #50.

I refuse to believe Mercs are the worst dps in the game as they are #50 on that list.

only 12 different guilds on the whole thing? i'm going to guess only people signed up and stuff are listed. I am going to assume alot of Mercs are just not signed up to Torparse. How many Mercs are registered on this site compared to the number of PTs? i know i'm not. hence the reason i'm not listed. I don't see anywhere to download any Parse software or even how it works. anywho....i stand by what i said earlier.

None of you PTs can out dps me. /superflex

Edit: i was looking at SM. on HM the only Merc is #25....and is a different guy from the one who was #50. 14 PTs on the list? LOL. and out of the whole 50...i see only one player from my server. a Sniper. Torparse does not reflect the real world and should not be viewed as such.
torparse.com is pretty easy to use. Go to upload, fill in the details of the character, upload your log. The link to the analysis can be posted as soon as it is upload, if it is good enough to get into the top X amount it will do it after midnight (I think that is when the statistics pages update).

TFB relies a lot on other people doing their jobs properly. If that's happening, PT/Merc should be about equal on the first fight, PT ahead on the second (lot's of movement), Merc ahead on the third (don't need to run as far before restarting DPS), PT on the fourth (they have better burst), PT on fifth (burst again, but really depends on who is killing larvae and anomalies).

Merc's aren't the worse PvE dps'ers. They are quite strong, but they fall behind in heavy movement fights and to a lesser extent fights with specific burst phases. Also very annoying that with similar aim and power heat seekers hit for less than a PT's rail shot. I find that stupid for a top tier ability.